This is incontrovertible proof that God is evil. God does not live by his own go

If God is real and we are created in his image you should expect similarities in nature.

Death is not something God cursed us with, man cursed man with death by sinning and allowing sin to be apart of the world.

Silas Eventhorne wrote: Death is not something God cursed us with, man cursed man with death by sinning and allowing sin to be apart of the world.

Um... no. That's nonsense. Death existed long before mankind did. The limited energy supply is pretty much the only reason evolution happens at all. If things were immortal, mankind would never have come about and all we would have is the most rudimentary self-replicating, probably crystalline structures that didn't have to compete for resources by adapting more aggressive or defensive self-preservation strategies. The digestive system signaling hunger didn't just pop into being the moment we sinned. Neither did the sex organs to propagate ourselves while we were still alive need to exist if we'd stay alive indefinitely. Diseases didn't just come out of nowhere the instant we sinned, along with an immune system to protect us from them AND a virus that cripples our immune system just in case it doesn't fail all on its own.

Even within the biblical creation narrative that model makes no sense. So man was immortal before he ate from either of the forbidden trees, but also mortal because he hadn't eaten from the Tree of Life that grants immortality? What if he had eaten from that tree? Would he then be punished with mortality but also have eaten the fruit that makes him immortal? And what if he hadn't eaten from either tree but obeyed God instead? It's almost like it was written by George Lucas to explain in as much a contrived way as humanly possible the trivially obvious problem with child birth pains: Too big baby heads.

I think probably its all just stories ppl teach and exchange with one another, there is nothing that doesn't have a story and everyone has their preferred narrative.
even science can be looked at as a story in the right terms or measurements, which is what science essentially is.
lets say there is a single solitary truth, that would get boring as hell after awhile.
ppl find create and agree upon truths in my view.
if (God) is real in any form i think its safe to say miscommunication can happen between that being and others as well.

MartaLina wrote: Yeah well , knowing G'd he proceedes as he bloody well likes , i dont think he lives in the realms of good and evil

That may be so, if there is a God, but scriptures say we are to emulate him as he is our best example.

Do you think a God and judge who breaks his own laws to be a good God?

Or are you afraid to judge what is said of him?

Regards
DL

Gisteron wrote: There is nothing demonstrably divine about the golden rule. There is nothing inherently good about it or inherently evil about violating it.

There is no evidence that there is any god that either does kill anything or has the power to either kill or to prevent death, or cure anything.

If god is immortal, the golden rule cannot help it decide whether to kill because its own being killed could not be hateful to it nor wished for. If god is mortal, it could be tired of living with the responsibility and wishing for death in which case the golden rule would at best not forbid and at worst instruct it to kill. There is also no evidence that what Jesus articulated is any god's rule.

And no, even if I grant you that Jesus said or believed any such thing, I would still not agree with him that anyone who breaks the golden rule is evil, because the rule is so ill phrased that there are actions that could at the same time be both an application and a violation.

The problem is that God itself is not coherently defined. It can be anything and everything and nothing and we cannot say anything about it with any confidence whatsoever. The most we can do is address what people who believe to speak with authority about it say about it - people like you, GIa. And like all of your peers, you, too, are just making things up pretending like you are more than a mere mortal human and that you have access to knowledge the rest of us are denied when in reality you have by far even less than what little some of us can offer...

Seems you do not believe much of the bible. This is good.

But those who do, are stuck with an evil genocidal God.

Regards
DL

Greatest-I-am wrote:

MartaLina wrote: Yeah well , knowing G'd he proceedes as he bloody well likes , i dont think he lives in the realms of good and evil

That may be so, if there is a God, but scriptures say we are to emulate him as he is our best example.

Do you think a God and judge who breaks his own laws to be a good God?

Or are you afraid to judge what is said of him?

Regards
DL

In which part of scripture does it say we are to emulate God?

Manu wrote: If by "God" you mean the Abrahamic God, then you should be aware that good and evil are defined by Him, that is, good is his will, evil is anything else.

Which makes anything He does inherently good. He is above the Law.

So you are thinking that genocide is good then. Right?

More direct to your answer.
Would you tolerate our human judges breaking the laws they write?

If not why would you give a God the pass to do so?

Regards
DL

JamesSand wrote: Okay God is evil. You got me. I'm on board.


Now what happens?

That is up to you.

Do you love your wrong thinking neighbors?

If so, this quote might guide you if you think it a good one.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Regards
DL

Greatest-I-am wrote:

Manu wrote: If by "God" you mean the Abrahamic God, then you should be aware that good and evil are defined by Him, that is, good is his will, evil is anything else.

Which makes anything He does inherently good. He is above the Law.

So you are thinking that genocide is good then. Right?

More direct to your answer.
Would you tolerate our human judges breaking the laws they write?

If not why would you give a God the pass to do so?

Regards
DL

Because there is nothing I can do about it. If God is evil then he is evil. Nothing I can do about it.