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10 Oct 2016 12:57 #260452 by Avalon
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ren wrote:

Avalonslight wrote: Once again. You don't get to personally make that decision for other people.


Neither do you, bully.


Except I never tried ;) I argued against you having done so without regard to those affected by your decision and without any form of permission by the council, or rather that board that you answer to.

Try again.

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10 Oct 2016 13:09 #260456 by
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Akkarin wrote:

ren wrote: No-one's forced to do anything. The option not to answer remains an option.

Gender is a metric that identifies significantly less people than Sex.


What if people want the option of putting something other than male/female? Doesn't this put us at the beginning of the thread? A text box seems the most straightforward if Gender is to remain an option. Indeed even if the option is sex (which was changed without Council notification) there are still non-binaries which would similarly be straightforwardly accommodated with a text box.

Another approach suggested would be to remove the option entirely, there is space for it in the "About Me" section of the profile. This option would also remove any issues with promoting one category over the other.


This is indeed the only logical option as other options dont respect either opinions on gender and sex , it was me who said that gender is the wrong word if you want to be adressed with HE , or SHE , because of all the variables and misconceptions and the complete lack of mutual respect here , there really is nothing more to say on the matter. I am begging the Council to have the whole sex and gender thing removed so we can get to know eachother as Jedi.

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10 Oct 2016 13:46 #260466 by Manu
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MartaLina wrote:

Akkarin wrote:

ren wrote: No-one's forced to do anything. The option not to answer remains an option.

Gender is a metric that identifies significantly less people than Sex.


What if people want the option of putting something other than male/female? Doesn't this put us at the beginning of the thread? A text box seems the most straightforward if Gender is to remain an option. Indeed even if the option is sex (which was changed without Council notification) there are still non-binaries which would similarly be straightforwardly accommodated with a text box.

Another approach suggested would be to remove the option entirely, there is space for it in the "About Me" section of the profile. This option would also remove any issues with promoting one category over the other.


This is indeed the only logical option as other options dont respect either opinions on gender and sex , it was me who said that gender is the wrong word if you want to be adressed with HE , or SHE , because of all the variables and misconceptions and the complete lack of mutual respect here , there really is nothing more to say on the matter. I am begging the Council to have the whole sex and gender thing removed so we can get to know eachother as Jedi.


Since the ONLY reason the gender/sex field is relevant is for people to know how to address others, maybe we (and by "we" I mean ren :laugh: ) could change it to "How do we address you" and have the options be "he" or "she". And then be done with the whole issue.

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10 Oct 2016 13:48 #260467 by Avalon
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Manu wrote:

MartaLina wrote:

Akkarin wrote:

ren wrote: No-one's forced to do anything. The option not to answer remains an option.

Gender is a metric that identifies significantly less people than Sex.


What if people want the option of putting something other than male/female? Doesn't this put us at the beginning of the thread? A text box seems the most straightforward if Gender is to remain an option. Indeed even if the option is sex (which was changed without Council notification) there are still non-binaries which would similarly be straightforwardly accommodated with a text box.

Another approach suggested would be to remove the option entirely, there is space for it in the "About Me" section of the profile. This option would also remove any issues with promoting one category over the other.


This is indeed the only logical option as other options dont respect either opinions on gender and sex , it was me who said that gender is the wrong word if you want to be adressed with HE , or SHE , because of all the variables and misconceptions and the complete lack of mutual respect here , there really is nothing more to say on the matter. I am begging the Council to have the whole sex and gender thing removed so we can get to know eachother as Jedi.


Since the ONLY reason the gender/sex field is relevant is for people to know how to address others, maybe we (and by "we" I mean ren :laugh: ) could change it to "How do we address you" and have the options be "he" or "she". And then be done with the whole issue.


Lmao he she or other ;)

But yes there's that too!!

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10 Oct 2016 13:53 #260472 by Manu
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Avalonslight wrote:

Manu wrote:

MartaLina wrote:

Akkarin wrote:

ren wrote: No-one's forced to do anything. The option not to answer remains an option.

Gender is a metric that identifies significantly less people than Sex.


What if people want the option of putting something other than male/female? Doesn't this put us at the beginning of the thread? A text box seems the most straightforward if Gender is to remain an option. Indeed even if the option is sex (which was changed without Council notification) there are still non-binaries which would similarly be straightforwardly accommodated with a text box.

Another approach suggested would be to remove the option entirely, there is space for it in the "About Me" section of the profile. This option would also remove any issues with promoting one category over the other.


This is indeed the only logical option as other options dont respect either opinions on gender and sex , it was me who said that gender is the wrong word if you want to be adressed with HE , or SHE , because of all the variables and misconceptions and the complete lack of mutual respect here , there really is nothing more to say on the matter. I am begging the Council to have the whole sex and gender thing removed so we can get to know eachother as Jedi.


Since the ONLY reason the gender/sex field is relevant is for people to know how to address others, maybe we (and by "we" I mean ren :laugh: ) could change it to "How do we address you" and have the options be "he" or "she". And then be done with the whole issue.


Lmao he she or other ;)

But yes there's that too!!


I'd get a bit spooked if someone decided to be referred to as "we". We are many, we go by many names. * head turns around 360 degrees * :dry:

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10 Oct 2016 13:57 #260477 by Avalon
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HAHAHAHA :laugh:

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10 Oct 2016 14:03 #260479 by Wescli Wardest
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Akkarin wrote: What if people want the option of putting something other than male/female?


I want to answer the box with... Often! :P

Or... Helicopter :woohoo:

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:woohoo: :silly: :laugh: :P

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10 Oct 2016 14:14 #260485 by Brick
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Manu wrote: I'd get a bit spooked if someone decided to be referred to as "we". We are many, we go by many names. * head turns around 360 degrees * :dry:


'My name is Legion, for we are many' ? :laugh:

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10 Oct 2016 14:15 #260486 by
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What if there was just an text box for "Preferred pronoun(s)"

There would be no need for debate of sex vs gender and ultimately I don't give a crap what you consider yourself or what you are as long as I call you what you want to be called. It's like calling someone by the nickname they prefer instead of the name on their birth certificate. They have something that they prefer to be called, let's call them that. That is the only info I really care about from the members here. What do you want me to refer to you as? If you fill out the box "him/he" great, "her/she" awesome, "them/they" sweet, and if you honestly want to be referred to as "ugly octopus head" I will do my best to honor that wish. Why should it really matter to me?

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10 Oct 2016 14:16 - 10 Oct 2016 14:58 #260488 by OB1Shinobi
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV1Gukj3dgc

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i think this was the original

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