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10 Oct 2016 04:51 - 10 Oct 2016 04:56 #260383 by JamesSand
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No.
We do not have better things to do than care of our members.
Ever.


Caring for members is one thing. I'm all for it. Support were support is due.

Self indulgent semantic stance-taking, finger pointing, and inane debate is not so much "caring for members" as the pseudo-social awareness version of jacking it.

Especially on an international forum, where getting distressed about nuances in synonyms in one language looks fairly ridiculous.

it was changed to sex


My passport says "Sex/Sexe"

As a word - if it's good enough for passports, it's good enough for here.
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10 Oct 2016 04:54 #260384 by steamboat28
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JamesSand wrote: Caring for members is one thing. I'm all for it. Support were support is due.

Self indulgent semantic stance-taking, finger pointing, and inane debate is not so much "caring for members" as the pseudo-social awareness version of jacking it.

Especially on an international forum, where getting distressed about nuances in synonyms in one language looks fairly ridiculous.


The difference between "gender" and "sex" is not a "nuance in synonyms." We have plenty of members on this international forum who might be personally affected by these decisions.
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10 Oct 2016 04:55 #260385 by ren
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How so?

Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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10 Oct 2016 05:57 #260399 by steamboat28
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...because it forces them to choose between their identity and a metric that they don't feel identifies them at all?
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10 Oct 2016 06:09 #260404 by ren
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No-one's forced to do anything. The option not to answer remains an option.

Gender is a metric that identifies significantly less people than Sex.

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10 Oct 2016 06:12 #260405 by steamboat28
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ren wrote: Gender is a metric that identifies significantly less people than Sex.

Care to quote a statistic on that, or are we going on your traditional ultra-conservative, "everybody but me is wrong", ostrich-head-in-the-socio-political-sand ramblings here?
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10 Oct 2016 06:22 #260408 by ren
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steamboat28 wrote:

ren wrote: Gender is a metric that identifies significantly less people than Sex.

Care to quote a statistic on that, or are we going on your traditional ultra-conservative, "everybody but me is wrong", ostrich-head-in-the-socio-political-sand ramblings here?


there is no statistic for that, statistics do not measure things which do not exist. I see you once again show absolute ignorance of other cultures on this topic. You used to be a decent guy, what happened?

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Wow this escalated quickly.. what if we take away both options ? We are supposed to be a community that embraces and accepts eachothers differences , but this discussion clearly proves we cannot. Bickering like little children over metrics , its the first time i really feel ashamed of you , really ,...take the options away and talk to eachother about who you are , because ideas are fluid and metrics are not , but if this is so offensive to people maybe they should consider getting a thicker skin or ...be a Jedi and accept people are different , some are metric and some are fluid ...

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10 Oct 2016 06:28 - 10 Oct 2016 06:32 #260411 by steamboat28
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ren wrote: there is no statistic for that, statistics do not measure things which do not exist. I see you once again show absolute ignorance of other cultures on this topic. You used to be a decent guy, what happened?


Gender exists as a concept. It has for a very long time. It is such an old concept that it has been traditionally subverted by shaman and medicine workers for the whole of recorded history.

Would you, having that knowledge, like to present me with evidence from a sociologist or anthropologist that says otherwise? Because if not, you're talking out of your ass to push your own opinion.


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10 Oct 2016 07:06 #260420 by Edan
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I'm disappointed my request for the topic to be taken elsewhere (this was just a thread about adding a gender option to the profile) has been ignored.

It won't let me have a blank signature ...
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