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02 Sep 2013 06:51 - 02 Sep 2013 06:58 #116902
by Alexandre Orion
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My hooded robe is a very functional "coat" ; its employ then is as such. I do not wear it in weather wherein a coat is impractical. In cool weather, it is a quite practical garment. For its symbolism, it has been neither cleaned nor repaired in 20 years, however continues to receive compliments on how smart it looks. Curious ... 
As far as ceremonial attire, I don't have anything specifically for special occasions. Everyday is a ceremony of sorts ... People in Dijon do not recognise me as Jedi from my clothing - they recognise me as Jedi by observing my moral/ethical conduct and the philosophical discourse. 'Being' is more conducive to the Jedi's identification than 'looking like ...'. And no lightsabre is involved. Discernment is a more able arm, and can even prove just a tad more intimidating.
With regards to whether they were crazy to wear all those clothes on Tatooine (which was really the south of Tunisia), one finds that desert-dwellers do cover themselves. It actually keeps the sun off them and conserves body moisture. The worse thing one could do in a desert is go about uncovered in the 'interest' of staying cool - the dryness of the air will 'drink' the water out of the body in a very short time and one dies of dehydration. Very painful and not pretty ...

As far as ceremonial attire, I don't have anything specifically for special occasions. Everyday is a ceremony of sorts ... People in Dijon do not recognise me as Jedi from my clothing - they recognise me as Jedi by observing my moral/ethical conduct and the philosophical discourse. 'Being' is more conducive to the Jedi's identification than 'looking like ...'. And no lightsabre is involved. Discernment is a more able arm, and can even prove just a tad more intimidating.
With regards to whether they were crazy to wear all those clothes on Tatooine (which was really the south of Tunisia), one finds that desert-dwellers do cover themselves. It actually keeps the sun off them and conserves body moisture. The worse thing one could do in a desert is go about uncovered in the 'interest' of staying cool - the dryness of the air will 'drink' the water out of the body in a very short time and one dies of dehydration. Very painful and not pretty ...
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03 Sep 2013 09:22 #116986
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Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.
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Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.
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03 Sep 2013 12:03 #116997
by Wescli Wardest
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That is an awesome robe!!!!
I want one of those! I have no idea where I would wear it, but anyone would look good sporting something like that!
I want one of those! I have no idea where I would wear it, but anyone would look good sporting something like that!
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03 Sep 2013 12:13 #116999
by Kohadre
You could wear it to a really nice Thai or Chinese restaurant. My mom has one similar in style to that, but in blue
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Wescli Wardest wrote: That is an awesome robe!!!!
I want one of those! I have no idea where I would wear it, but anyone would look good sporting something like that!
You could wear it to a really nice Thai or Chinese restaurant. My mom has one similar in style to that, but in blue
So long and thanks for all the fish
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03 Sep 2013 17:21 #117048
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Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
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Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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:blink: that is one smexy robe....I'd wear that anywhere,anytime....haters be damned :laugh:
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There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
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Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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03 Sep 2013 18:04 #117060
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Question related to this topic:
Where does the notion of "a robe" (ie the dress code) come from?
Is the assumption being made that the SW movie Jedi = TotJO Jedi? If so, then are all TotJO celibate? Or are we just picking and choosing the "cool" aspects?? :whistle:
Where does the notion of "a robe" (ie the dress code) come from?
Is the assumption being made that the SW movie Jedi = TotJO Jedi? If so, then are all TotJO celibate? Or are we just picking and choosing the "cool" aspects?? :whistle:
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03 Sep 2013 18:06 - 03 Sep 2013 18:08 #117061
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Yes, from the fiction.
However, the fiction drew the wearing of a simple brown robe from historical monastic orders.
I have actually seen a TOTJO ceremony first hand. The participants were not dressed in any sort of attire that had anything to do with the fiction. I on the other hand, for all my bluster about legitimacy and professionalism, was dressed up in what I feel to be my "ceremonial" outfit. Irony.
However, the fiction drew the wearing of a simple brown robe from historical monastic orders.
I have actually seen a TOTJO ceremony first hand. The participants were not dressed in any sort of attire that had anything to do with the fiction. I on the other hand, for all my bluster about legitimacy and professionalism, was dressed up in what I feel to be my "ceremonial" outfit. Irony.
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03 Sep 2013 18:13 #117068
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Fair enough.
If that is the case...I know plenty of monastics and priests who wear their cassocks out in public (regardless of weather).
They seem to be practicing their religion with ease...why so much different for the "jedi."???
Further...I do medieval re-enactment...and I have worn (tonight in fact, and its 98 out now) full monastic robes over steel armor and chainmail - no issues.
The problem is in the mind...release your attachment to such ideals of what is the "norm."
If that is the case...I know plenty of monastics and priests who wear their cassocks out in public (regardless of weather).
They seem to be practicing their religion with ease...why so much different for the "jedi."???
Further...I do medieval re-enactment...and I have worn (tonight in fact, and its 98 out now) full monastic robes over steel armor and chainmail - no issues.
The problem is in the mind...release your attachment to such ideals of what is the "norm."
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03 Sep 2013 18:28 - 03 Sep 2013 18:29 #117078
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For me, as I said, is a question of professionalism.
People, unfortunately make snap judgements. I find the stigma associated with the simple act of calling oneself Jedi to be enough of a battle, I also don't want to further complicate things by alienating myself from those I would serve by being odd.
I am a member of ARMA, a historic European Marital arts group, but we do not dress in period attire when we do what we do, we have a modern martial arts uniform that helps to separate us from people that seek to be re creationists or larpers.
While we should be proud and not be ashamed of our religious expression, dressing up in robes is not "required" and there fore unnecessary.
People, unfortunately make snap judgements. I find the stigma associated with the simple act of calling oneself Jedi to be enough of a battle, I also don't want to further complicate things by alienating myself from those I would serve by being odd.
I am a member of ARMA, a historic European Marital arts group, but we do not dress in period attire when we do what we do, we have a modern martial arts uniform that helps to separate us from people that seek to be re creationists or larpers.
While we should be proud and not be ashamed of our religious expression, dressing up in robes is not "required" and there fore unnecessary.
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03 Sep 2013 19:00 #117083
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That is not to say YOU should not wear a robe. Practical things those, especially if you are handy enough to sew in lots of pockets.
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