Going out in public

FraterDavid wrote:

Kamizu wrote: I always wonder at the people who wear headphones and hoods. Missing so much in life

I think that such people are operating from a desire to block out the rest of the world, or to escape from it, or both. Or they feel that such an aloof kind of fashion is "cool". I agree, they don't know what they're missing. The same can be said of all of us, to a certain extent, but at least as Jedi we are actively seeking out that which we may be missing.

To me, the hoods on the robes of the Jedi are status symbols of their attunement with the Force. Kind of like saying, "I can wear this hood because I don't need to see you in order to know you're there and whether you present a danger or not." Realistically, most people on Earth are not attuned enough to get away with that, but the hood has become an iconic thing from the movies.

Very true! On both counts. Never thought of the Jedi hood in that manner before! Hrmm...

To me the hood has always been a 'dont bother me I'm meditating on the Force' type of flag/symbol, rather then an expression of talent or skill.... but used in the fiction in public to hide. In this regard if we gave out robes to homeless people, would you still wear them? I thought in the old European cultures they represented poverty by being so simple and plain ie; non-attachment.

Aww and here I thought that robes were a trendy fashion statement :woohoo:

Most of us only wear robes on rare occasions... of course sometimes I wear it just to wear it....and sometimes I train with it on...of course I'm referring to my battle robe for training as experience has taught me that the over robe is too bulky and billowy for any sort of combat (saber,sword, or hand to hand)...

Traditionally robes were simplistic to symbolize a life of humility (not in a negative sense but in a devoted sense)...in most religions the spiritual leaders wear robes of some sort....

Connor Lidell wrote: I don't know any Jedi that wears a robe on a daily basis.

Obi-Wan was CRAZY on Tatooine.

Actually, it's not unheard of attire for a desert dweller. There are lots of reasons that many layers and head coverings make more sense than they seem to in the desert.

Jestor wrote: Unless its functional, I NEVER wear a hood...

I find they are detrimental to my peripheral vision, and I like to be able to observe my surroundings...

I've used them before to help me learn to rely more on my hearing than peripheral vision, but not being able to side-eye things does bother me.

A hood is just a hat you can't drop. Follow hat etiquette with it and you will be fine.

As far as robes, I have them, but only wear them for cerimonies... No matter how dashing they make me look.

Andy Spalding wrote: A hood is just a hat you can't drop. Follow hat etiquette with it and you will be fine.

As far as robes, I have them, but only wear them for cerimonies... No matter how dashing they make me look.

That includes lowering it when entering stores and banks....or taking late night strolls in florida....(was it too soon for a joke like that? :evil: )

ok thanks everyone...

My hooded robe is a very functional "coat" ; its employ then is as such. I do not wear it in weather wherein a coat is impractical. In cool weather, it is a quite practical garment. For its symbolism, it has been neither cleaned nor repaired in 20 years, however continues to receive compliments on how smart it looks. Curious ...

As far as ceremonial attire, I don't have anything specifically for special occasions. Everyday is a ceremony of sorts ... People in Dijon do not recognise me as Jedi from my clothing - they recognise me as Jedi by observing my moral/ethical conduct and the philosophical discourse. 'Being' is more conducive to the Jedi's identification than 'looking like ...'. And no lightsabre is involved. Discernment is a more able arm, and can even prove just a tad more intimidating.

With regards to whether they were crazy to wear all those clothes on Tatooine (which was really the south of Tunisia), one finds that desert-dwellers do cover themselves. It actually keeps the sun off them and conserves body moisture. The worse thing one could do in a desert is go about uncovered in the 'interest' of staying cool - the dryness of the air will 'drink' the water out of the body in a very short time and one dies of dehydration. Very painful and not pretty ...

You could probably pull it off with a robe like this:

That is an awesome robe!!!!

I want one of those! I have no idea where I would wear it, but anyone would look good sporting something like that!

Wescli Wardest wrote: That is an awesome robe!!!!

I want one of those! I have no idea where I would wear it, but anyone would look good sporting something like that!

You could wear it to a really nice Thai or Chinese restaurant. My mom has one similar in style to that, but in blue

:blink: that is one smexy robe....I'd wear that anywhere,anytime....haters be damned :laugh:

Question related to this topic:

Where does the notion of "a robe" (ie the dress code) come from?

Is the assumption being made that the SW movie Jedi = TotJO Jedi? If so, then are all TotJO celibate? Or are we just picking and choosing the "cool" aspects?? :whistle:

Yes, from the fiction.

However, the fiction drew the wearing of a simple brown robe from historical monastic orders.

I have actually seen a TOTJO ceremony first hand. The participants were not dressed in any sort of attire that had anything to do with the fiction. I on the other hand, for all my bluster about legitimacy and professionalism, was dressed up in what I feel to be my "ceremonial" outfit. Irony.

Fair enough.

If that is the case...I know plenty of monastics and priests who wear their cassocks out in public (regardless of weather).

They seem to be practicing their religion with ease...why so much different for the "jedi."???

Further...I do medieval re-enactment...and I have worn (tonight in fact, and its 98 out now) full monastic robes over steel armor and chainmail - no issues.

The problem is in the mind...release your attachment to such ideals of what is the "norm."

For me, as I said, is a question of professionalism.

People, unfortunately make snap judgements. I find the stigma associated with the simple act of calling oneself Jedi to be enough of a battle, I also don't want to further complicate things by alienating myself from those I would serve by being odd.

I am a member of ARMA, a historic European Marital arts group, but we do not dress in period attire when we do what we do, we have a modern martial arts uniform that helps to separate us from people that seek to be re creationists or larpers.

While we should be proud and not be ashamed of our religious expression, dressing up in robes is not "required" and there fore unnecessary.

That is not to say YOU should not wear a robe. Practical things those, especially if you are handy enough to sew in lots of pockets.

The modern day equivalent of "poor person's clothing" is a t-shirt and jeans. Historically it has been a plain robe. If you want to display humbleness, a simple life, etc then the t-shirt and jeans you already have are probably your "monk's robes". You could make an iron-on transfer of your favorite jedi logo or jedi symbol and add it to your robes for about $1 and some kind of printer to print it.

On the other hand, the robe in that photo I posted is probably a Qing dynasty emperor's robe. It costs $400 from that website. An authentic one would cost into the tens of thousands of dollars. I think you could make one yourself for about $50 in material.

In this day and age, you can get almost any clothing you want and you can probably afford it so... for $400 you can get a lightweight, breatheable, waterproof, windproof, warm thermal insulation, gore-tex, removable hood, triple-stitched, armpit-zipper opening, back ventet, self-wicking, machine-washable jacket. Something like this:



And I've been wearing it for 13 years. The first one lasted 10yrs and then it was replaced with a new one for free on a lifetime warrany :woohoo:

Andy Spalding wrote: People, unfortunately make snap judgements. I find the stigma associated with the simple act of calling oneself Jedi to be enough of a battle, I also don't want to further complicate things by alienating myself from those I would serve by being odd.

Yes...it is VERY unfortunate I agree. However, there are christian's in Syria this very day who are dying for their faith and system of beliefs. Are Jedi so less in their convictions that they care?

Where there is doubt, faith.

Is this not part of The Creed? Are Jedi not bound to it? Are such things not a symbol of this faith?

While we should be proud and not be ashamed of our religious expression, dressing up in robes is not "required" and there fore unnecessary.

I absolutely agree. "Required" is a strong word for sure, nor would I advocate that it should be such. My point though is that the reason for not wearing such attire seems to come from a realm of fear and ignorance, not from a faith in peace and knowledge.