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A couple of questions...
15 Nov 2013 13:19 #125071
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One other thing to consider - all things have a natural lifespan and this includes relationships. When someone dies, or a partnership breaks down, it is usual (and healthy!) to release our feelings through expressions of grief. But holding onto that person long after their time has gone is not good for us. Clinging to friendships and relationships that should have been let go, pining for the dead to the extent that we are not able to live our own lives, continuing to pursue habits and practices that we know are bad for us.... all of these are the kind of attachments that are talked about.
Love is a wondrous thing and takes many forms. I personally don't see these as attachments, more as shared moments of joy.
Love is a wondrous thing and takes many forms. I personally don't see these as attachments, more as shared moments of joy.
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15 Nov 2013 13:25 #125072
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Attachment is mindless; love is mindful.
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15 Nov 2013 13:27 #125073
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Thank you. These are both very wise responses
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15 Nov 2013 13:27 #125074
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NO !!! YOU MUST BE CELIBATE - NEVER TOUCH NOR LOOK AT ANYONE - AND MIND YOUR THOUGHTS !!!
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- oooh ! if that were the case, we would be so screwed !
The Jedi are Love ... and yes, we love fully and very deeply.
Yet, we are called to wisdom about it. Love is not a thought, it is neither desire nor possession. Love is not jealous. It is not an agreement. It is abandon, it is giving of one's self without the expectation of recompense. It is neither by Reason nor is it reasonable ... When it is genuine, it is intensely spiritual.
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- oooh ! if that were the case, we would be so screwed !

The Jedi are Love ... and yes, we love fully and very deeply.
Yet, we are called to wisdom about it. Love is not a thought, it is neither desire nor possession. Love is not jealous. It is not an agreement. It is abandon, it is giving of one's self without the expectation of recompense. It is neither by Reason nor is it reasonable ... When it is genuine, it is intensely spiritual.
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15 Nov 2013 13:50 #125078
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Wow, I must compliment the wisdom of the answers I've received
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15 Nov 2013 14:09 #125079
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Even in the Lore, we find that the attachment rule is "silly".
It helps cause the demise of the universe. Anakin was constantly being told that he couldn't love... Look how that turned out.
But, look to the New Jedi Order, and we see that they were encouraged to love.
It helps cause the demise of the universe. Anakin was constantly being told that he couldn't love... Look how that turned out.
But, look to the New Jedi Order, and we see that they were encouraged to love.
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15 Nov 2013 14:25 #125080
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And a Jedi Knight was forced to kill her Sith brother... that didn't work out so well either. :laugh:
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16 Nov 2013 00:16 #125128
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Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.
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Marijuana, B&D, and S&M Jedi wedding ceremony... just a thought.
Attachment to material goods seems to be the main issue that people have. I love my car, my house, my tv, my iPhone, and I'm willing to murder other people or watch them die so I can keep it. I turn a blind eye to child slave labour so I can have a microsoft mouse for a little less money.
Attachment to material goods seems to be the main issue that people have. I love my car, my house, my tv, my iPhone, and I'm willing to murder other people or watch them die so I can keep it. I turn a blind eye to child slave labour so I can have a microsoft mouse for a little less money.
Few are those who see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts.
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16 Nov 2013 03:05 #125141
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"Obsessive/unhealthy attachments" are what we are wanting to avoid... In my opinion...
My wife, kids, family, phone, house, car, TOTJO, martial arts, and a whole lot more.... lol...
The inanimate objects are the easiest (should be) to let go...
Then, choices would have to be made...
I love my daughter, but, I had to divorce her mom.... For my mental health....
Long story... lol, aren't they all when of this type?
When an attachment forces a "questionable" decision....
A decision that would seem counter to "normal" thought processes....
That "normal" thoughts might deem as detrimental to the well being of something or "someone"...
Then it becomes "unhealthy" or "obsessive" attachment....
And should be avoided....
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Jedi ain't Saints....
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StudentOfTheForce wrote: Masters and councilors, I am confused on the topic of being in a relationship. I know Jedi should not form attachments, but is ceremonially pronouncing love for another anything like that? Basically I want to know if one can be a Jedi and still date/ marry?
"Obsessive/unhealthy attachments" are what we are wanting to avoid... In my opinion...
My wife, kids, family, phone, house, car, TOTJO, martial arts, and a whole lot more.... lol...
The inanimate objects are the easiest (should be) to let go...
Then, choices would have to be made...
I love my daughter, but, I had to divorce her mom.... For my mental health....
Long story... lol, aren't they all when of this type?

When an attachment forces a "questionable" decision....
A decision that would seem counter to "normal" thought processes....
That "normal" thoughts might deem as detrimental to the well being of something or "someone"...
Then it becomes "unhealthy" or "obsessive" attachment....
And should be avoided....
On walk-about...
Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....
"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching
Rite: PureLand
Former Memeber of the TOTJO Council
Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter
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16 Nov 2013 03:58 #125146
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I know that feeling Master J
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Jestor wrote: I had to divorce her mom.... For my mental health....
I know that feeling Master J

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