A Jedi Retreat/Temple

Hypothetically speaking,

If one was making a Jedi Retreat and/or a Temple, what are something you would like to see in the design?

Ex. For me I would like a retreat where we could escape the stresses of the world.
It would be self sustaining meaning it would generate its own food, water, and electricity.
Offer living quarters to Jedi seeking to focus on training (Ip/Apprenticeship) or just a peaceful place to meditate.
As well as assisting those in need in the surrounding community.

Sorry if this question has already been posted

Some bloke in Tasmania tunneled out an angled staircase some 9 storeys through an ocean front cliff face, from an entry point up top all the way down to a little door just above the high tide line where the cliff base sat on some rock shoreline. In the middle of the stair case is a big wine cellar..... as far as retreats go it sounds pretty good to me!!!
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It was for sale, sitting on 8 hectares of land.... only $3 million AUD :pinch:

Apparently all my replies from this morning didn't "take"


Firstly: Wow, the old folks were right - this subject does come up a lot :laugh:


Secondly: I have some ideas, but first ( :huh: )

Thirdly:

It would be self sustaining meaning it would generate its own food, water, and electricity.

Why? Is plumbed water not good for Jedi?
Are we not supporting markets and farmers now?


One benefit of being a Jedi is that we (broadly) are allowed to go anywhere - so any Hotel works well for a Jedi Retreat

(Olympic size swimming pool preferred, but optional)

escape the stresses of the world.

Ah, you mean Death.

It was for sale, sitting on 8 hectares of land.... only $3 million AUD

Not so bad....About the going rate for a Unit in Sydney :laugh:

On the downside, you're in bloody tasmania (might as well be a long long time ago in a galaxy far away....)

Wow, the old folks were right - this subject does come up a lot :laugh:

Mhm :laugh:

Why? Is plumbed water not good for Jedi?
Are we not supporting markets and farmers now?

From a Jedi Standpoint, self sufficiency is just as important as community support.

One benefit of being a Jedi is that we (broadly) are allowed to go anywhere - so any Hotel works well for a Jedi Retreat (Olympic size swimming pool preferred, but optional)

If that were true....have you been to a Jedi Gathering yet?

I was planning a Ohio Jedi Gathering....Plush beds....Indoor Pool....2 hot tubs....pool table....linens and catering....whole 9 yards. It would have ran us.... $4,237.50.....which means we would have needed 30 Jedi to come in order to make division of costs fair and manageable at $185 per person.

Not only did Jedi complain. But they voted for a downgrade of accommodations in a different area.

Its not as easy as one thinks.....

Hypothetically speaking,

If one was making a Jedi Retreat and/or a Temple, what are something you would like to see in the design?

I wonder if I can find it.....Mmmm darn.....I used to have a Jedi Retreat map of everything I would have. Obviously.....just a dream. Still it was fun to make. Its buried in my files somewhere though....hmmmm *keeps looking*

Starting the temple as a commune or co-op housing would probably be the most realistic way to achieve a good portion of these goals.

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JamesSand wrote: Why? Is plumbed water not good for Jedi?
Are we not supporting markets and farmers now?

One benefit of being a Jedi is that we (broadly) are allowed to go anywhere - so any Hotel works well for a Jedi Retreat

For me I was just thinking of an eco retreat. To me it would be less stressful to be able to pay upfront for everything to make sure we dont have traditional monthly bills we have to pay... Because once we go that route then we would be completely dependent on donations and if we didnt get the required amount then everything would be turned off....

I know this subject comes up ALOT.... however currently Im in the process of making 2 communities as part of my college club that will be a non-profit one day.... If my plans work then I will have a proven plan of how we went from 0 funding to land and a community that I would like to use to make a real Jedi retreat.....

While we are at it, we could think about Jedi clothes, Jedi jewelry, Jedi cars and Jedi cellphones as well.

Or we could take that time and energy and put it into actually making our own homes our temples, and work from there to help our community.

Manu wrote: While we are at it, we could think about Jedi clothes, Jedi jewelry, Jedi cars and Jedi cellphones as well.

Or we could take that time and energy and put it into actually making our own homes our temples, and work from there to help our community.

After the last thread, this is kind of the conclusion that I came to too. I have land, and I have material, just not time, but you know what. I think I am going to resend my offer to use it because my thing is exactly this. While it would be nice to have a place for us to all meet and train, it's not feasible or unforeseeable right now, and I would argue it's not preferable. We should make it part of the Temple that every home should be a temple. You should use it as a base for study and for doing good. Volunteer, donate, do whatever you can out of your own home. I think that makes sense, since if you can't do that then what go is a temple? It would just be a fancy expensive place to hang out and not be Jedi, the exact opposite of what we are about.

Sorry I should have explained this a little better.

The 2 communities that we are building are for the homeless, one for homeless teenagers and one for homeless veterans.
Our plan currently is to take our design of a community and expand to other cities/states. Each community is made up of tiny houses (like on tv). The issue is each community built has to have a group of people their to maintain the community and to provide assistance to help these people find jobs and get them back on their feet. The current way we are solving this issue is working with simular non-profits that are bigger than us to help us manage each one until we are big enough to do so ourselves.

So my initial idea was this:

Each community is going to have living for staff to take care of the project but this living would be in the form of again tiny houses, nothing big or fancy just the necessities to make it a cozy home.

Yes this would be a retreat for Jedi but to also put into motion what they are learning, assisting those that are living within the community. The great thing about this is that every person will need help a different way, and we all have different skills.

So A Jedi could meditate, focus on his/her studies and then walk over and put in a few hours each day helping the needs of the community.

I agree that your home is your temple, and that we do not need anything fancy, but if we are already building communities that are taking care and assisting the homeless get their lives back why not combine them? I feel like this would be a huge impact not only on our communities but also on ourselves.

I was just curious to see what others would like to see in a "Jedi retreat"

HEY! I'm not OLD! I'm only 31.... lol

I like this one to mention, the hunting castle of King Francis I, Castle Chambord. (completed in 1554) I have been there several years ago during a short holiday stop to look around and I find the double-helix staircase from Leonardo da Vinci a beautiful construction.. With over the 440 rooms there is enough space and its exit of 8km / 4mi / 1708.906yd gives enough privacy.. Ehm.. It is too large, but the style looks lovely if it would be more simple. :blush:

Design ideas:

Location:
in an estate or nature park
easy accessible on the map
not close by a town or city
high on a mountain (less noise)

Building:
enough rooms
a central staircase
I like compact buildings
no unnecessary rooms
something not outrageous!
a high sealing with detail
preferably old or an old building style
a cozy feeling everywhere :blush:

Possible room ideas besides the usual stuff:
privacy places to be alone, like personal study rooms
secret meeting rooms and passages to make it more interesting*
a library with a closed section to store old valuable copies
one astronomical tower, including a telescope and planetarium
the lecture room that does not look boring + comfortable seats
a Jedi Chapel with organ :blink:
some places to practice arts and personal interests/ activities
rooms to create income.. like a museum/public tour section

JamesSand wrote: Firstly: Wow, the old folks were right - this subject does come up a lot :laugh:

I've been asking that this question and "How do Jedi feel about drugs?" be put in the FAQ, but people keep shooting me down. At one time, I also made a masterpost for all the "Do Jedi wear robes?" sorts of questions, but I don't have the link handy.

Codex wrote: I like this one to mention, the hunting castle of King Francis I, Castle Chambord. (completed in 1554) I have been there several years ago during a short holiday stop to look around and I find the double-helix staircase from Leonardo da Vinci a beautiful construction.. With over the 440 rooms there is enough space and its exit of 8km / 4mi / 1708.906yd gives enough privacy.. Ehm.. It is too large, but the style looks lovely if it would be more simple. :blush:

Design ideas:

Location:
in an estate or nature park
easy accessible on the map
not close by a town or city
high on a mountain (less noise)

Building:
enough rooms
a central staircase
I like compact buildings
no unnecessary rooms
something not outrageous!
a high sealing with detail
preferably old or an old building style
a cozy feeling everywhere :blush:

Possible room ideas besides the usual stuff:
privacy places to be alone, like personal study rooms
secret meeting rooms and passages to make it more interesting*
a library with a closed section to store old valuable copies
one astronomical tower, including a telescope and planetarium
the lecture room that does not look boring + comfortable seats
a Jedi Chapel with organ :blink:
some places to practice arts and personal interests/ activities
rooms to create income.. like a museum/public tour section

Warning: Spoiler!

Joking ...they r seriouserious about their lawn darts hu?

carlos.martinez3 wrote: Joking ...they r seriouserious about their lawn darts hu?

Hehe, no idea what weird games they play there Carlos! Maybe we should give it a try?

Chambord is just way, way, too big.. almost scary.. :blush: I really do like the old style and that is actually the only reason I like to show Chambord. These days people do not make nice stairs anymore, I enjoy those details so much that I miss is every time I enter a 'new build' place. It makes me sad that so many buildings are industrial made. And it is very special to see craftsmanship too, makes me happy.

Castles Schmastles.


My Jedi Retreat (Other that my actual house) looks like....

its so hilarious how most of you are against the idea of a physical place for jediism. on many levels that doesnt make sense to me.

-like in other religions one doesnt need own things if everything in a temple is shared. like in a monastery. you argue that you dont need physical things, but actually a monastry-like-place could mean to give up own physical things and have shared stuff.

-this forum is a place to meet and it is still kind of physical. there is a physical server and this place has a adress. it is helpful to have a place to meet.

-it is like a gym. a gym has special things to stay fit and do sports together. i am not a fan of going to a gym for jogging on a treadmill, cause you should do that outside. but still some exercises are better with training equip and a knowig training teacher to correct your mistakes. thats something a book or a video cant do. and for real, people hurt themselfs because of tthose mistakes.

-you always come up with the argument that is will be a fancy place. where does this come from? why is your mind making the picture of a fancy place? i can see a white room, some meditation pillows and a deep table. another room has a small library and a few tables to sit on and eat together or read and write. a dojo for physical teaining. not nore then a mid sized youth-club. this doesnt has to be a temple of a huge size (except its a monastry like one, then it needs to be bigger)


i dont want to say that it is nessesary or better, i just want to say that it has up and downsides. and as you can see jeffery has some good ideas what to do there for the community as well. he is not kust about building a house for own pleasure, but to make the qorld a better place.

Heut wrote: its so hilarious how most of you are against the idea of a physical place for jediism. on many levels that doesnt make sense to me.

Not sure what is "Hilarious" about it. Most if not all of us would love to see a physical place for Jediism. It is just that we are being practical. And some of us......Have tried. My home has been sanctuary to a great many Jedi. I am one of the leading founders and Organizer/Co Organizers of Jedi Gatherings and quite keenly understand the difficulty, work, and most importantly....Money...it takes to get 20...30....Jedi into one physical location. ((The stress and drama is un real, believe me.)) My husband even set in motion an actual physical place and Jedi bailed out on him.

Its not "Hilarious" at all. It's a pipe dream that many of us would love to see come true.....but lack the resources or passion to actually do it. In the end....Our real lives are more important. My husband is more important. My kids and their education is more important. Food and clothes and a small house they can sleep in is more important. A JOB. Is more important.

Besides.....most Jedi cant handle the Online Drama and Debates. Much less deal with it in person face to face on a consistent basis.

You want to meet Jedi once or twice a year? Come to a Gathering. There is going to be one In Ohio September 2017 I look forward to seeing some of you there. (And likely wont anyways....)

hey trisskar
thanks for the serious reply. cause this is what i was criticising as well. there had been so many joking-around-answers here that it seemed that nobody is taking the idea and discussion of jeffery earnest (is that possible to say in english?)

i can understand your reasoning pretty well. the world out there already takes huge amounts of ressources and time.
that is by the way is why monks and clerics had to be wifeless and living their life dedicated to the "god/religion"
so i would say its hard but possible to build up such a place. and it would be good to be in a big city, because otherwise there wont be enough interested people to go there regulary.

gatherings are really cool and important, but not the same as a real settled community. there had been reasons why you had to go to church one a week with your body. it forms a community, a bond between people.
gatherings are more compareable to a pilgramage.

thanks for the invitation but i m living in europe and wont be agle to hop the big lake

Heut wrote: hey trisskar
thanks for the serious reply. cause this is what i was criticising as well. there had been so many joking-around-answers here that it seemed that nobody is taking the idea and discussion of jeffery earnest (is that possible to say in english?)

i can understand your reasoning pretty well. the world out there already takes huge amounts of ressources and time.
that is by the way is why monks and clerics had to be wifeless and living their life dedicated to the "god/religion"
so i would say its hard but possible to build up such a place. and it would be good to be in a big city, because otherwise there wont be enough interested people to go there regulary.

gatherings are really cool and important, but not the same as a real settled community. there had been reasons why you had to go to church one a week with your body. it forms a community, a bond between people.
gatherings are more compareable to a pilgramage.

thanks for the invitation but i m living in europe and wont be agle to hop the big lake

We have quite a few members "across the lake" who get together at least once a year if not more so I believe...

Heut wrote: its so hilarious how most of you are against the idea of a physical place for jediism. on many levels that doesnt make sense to me.

No one is against it. If you want to go ahead and build a temple, build it. Some of us here have limited time and resources, so at least in my case it would be at the very bottom of my list.

That said, I believe Freemasonry functions with "Lodges", where every member's house is a meeting place for other members, and serves as temporal housing for travellers. This approach might be more efficient, especially considering how scattered Jedi are around the world.

I'm personally biased, I must admit, living in Ecuador, away from most of you.

Heut wrote: i dont want to say that it is nessesary or better, i just want to say that it has up and downsides. and as you can see jeffery has some good ideas what to do there for the community as well. he is not kust about building a house for own pleasure, but to make the qorld a better place.

Jeffrey's project seems worthy, but from what I've read the idea of a Jedi Temple is being forced into it. The point is, it is a worthwhile project, calling it a Jedi Retreat/Temple only makes it sound cooler, and does not contribute in any other way.