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06 Aug 2016 03:23 - 06 Aug 2016 03:24 #251057 by FTPC
I can Across this post thanks to Roz and Since we are in the same boat I am Pissed off at Japan
"Because it said that Disable people are better off Dead".. Look As a Handicap person and jedi in training
I know that I have been tross a bad hand in life. but the force chooses when I die
Not some one or not the usa..

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06 Aug 2016 03:46 - 06 Aug 2016 03:52 #251061 by

FTPC wrote: I am Pissed off at Japan


Why are you pissed off at Japan? Every single Japanese person I've spoken to about this subject has expressed anger and anguish over this horrific event. And in terms of how the nation itself does in regards to disabled people, Japan is leaps and bounds ahead* of the United States, largely by necessity, since so many Japanese people are elderly (with age usually comes disabilities.) But then again, most first world nations are leaps and bounds ahead of the U.S. in that respect.

* with one major exception: mental health and related disabilities. It is hard for me to say whether Japan is worse or better than the U.S., since both are pretty bad about stigmatizing, suppressing and ignoring such things on a national/societal level.
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06 Aug 2016 03:47 #251062 by Lykeios Little Raven
It wasn't Japan saying that disabled people are better off dead, just that one person who carried out these brutal murders. However, it is horrible that this happened. I'm shocked and appalled that someone could do that to anyone much less people with disabilities. It's tragic. Though it sounds like the people of Japan are just as horrified over the murders. Doesn't seem like no one cares.

My heart goes out to the families of those who have been murdered.

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06 Aug 2016 04:01 #251064 by RosalynJ
As with other acts of violence, we must not allow the actions of one person to be demonstrative of the feelings of an entire group of people. Yes, this is wrong, but this is not Japan. This is one person committing an act, not a nation. As a human race, I believe we have made great strides in equality. Certainly we have a ways to go (as clearly demonstrated here), but we are moving forward though the progress be slow.

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06 Aug 2016 04:29 - 06 Aug 2016 04:32 #251065 by
Uhh How is Japan responsible for this? This is is like saying that the USA has a vendetta against Gays because of the night club attack in Miami! This makes no sense. What even floors me more than this is peoples outrage over the death of humans or others comments to such, and their attempt to blame an establishment for this, when we euthanize over 2.5 million animals each year without a thought! No one complains or starts a thread about them. Why is any one life, no matter whether it be human or animal, considered more important than another? I find it sickening...
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06 Aug 2016 04:51 #251066 by Adder
That particular quote was from the offender himself, and so seemingly unrelated to any nations opinion or reaction. It was on the news quite widely at the time from what I can tell, in pretty clear and concise terms as to its nature. I think most all people found the crime appalling.

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06 Aug 2016 07:16 #251070 by
He's just another psycho. Like the Nice attacker. Like the German gunner. Those two had no allegiance with ISIS, ISIS was their scapegoat. The orlando shooter, was not a psycho, but that's another story ...

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06 Aug 2016 13:05 #251090 by FTPC
Ok I am not totally upset or mad at or with japan.. I am Just pissed at the Person that wrote or said the Disable are better off dead " If you read the artlice it is in there turst me and why I kind of mad at japan because no ones cares. and the only reason why I came across it was because of roz. and it the usa did all the major news channel cover it, I will have to check,

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well here are four things That don't see color
1 Violence
2 Being Challeged or handicap
3 The jedi path or your path as a jedi
4 The Force & faith

I just mad because it happen to the disable, and I am one of them..
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06 Aug 2016 13:30 - 06 Aug 2016 13:32 #251092 by Leah Starspectre
According to the article, there was one person, who had a history of antisocial behavior (including being hospitalized for expressing a desire to kill disabled people). It was him who said that all disabled people should be killed. This was a planned attack by one person who was not well. In response, the community, and indeed the country was shocked and horrified.

They indicated that this incident was the largest mass killing in post-war Japan. Think about that: over 60 years, and the biggest mass murder is 19 people (25 injured). As a country, they seem to have an excellent handle on violent crime compared to many developed countries.

So what reason is there to be upset with anybody but the killer in this clearly isolated tragedy?

I know it's difficult too stay unbiased when something like this happens within you own community, but try not to let your emotion cloud your judgement - emotion, yet peace.
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06 Aug 2016 13:32 #251093 by
It didn't get a great deal of coverage that I noticed, mostly I saw it from activist friends of mine and the /r/worldnews post on Reddit. The media is probably gonna report that it happened but it's something that happened, and has now been mostly resolved. It's not going to be this big, blown-out thing because it doesn't fit anybody's political agenda to hype it up.

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06 Aug 2016 13:57 #251094 by Alethea Thompson
Having once lived in Japan for 3 years (for the military) I have a good chunk of friends on my Facebook that are still there or are Japanese themselves. Trust me, when this happened, they were upset over it. All of them.

Japan (overall) has a deep respect for every (Native Japanese) member of their society, it's an insane contrast from how we act here in the US.

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06 Aug 2016 14:20 #251098 by RosalynJ
Just to let you know the only reason I shared that with my Facebook feed is because 19 people died. Our media didn't cover it that much, but other media did I'm sure. I didn't do it this Inspire some hate for Japan

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06 Aug 2016 14:26 #251099 by

Rosalyn J wrote: Just to let you know the only reason I shared that with my Facebook feed is because 19 people died. Our media didn't cover it that much, but other media did I'm sure. I didn't do it this Inspire some hate for Japan


Nobody who knows you would ever accuse you of that.

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06 Aug 2016 14:43 #251102 by ren

Alethea Thompson wrote: Japan (overall) has a deep respect for every (Native Japanese) member of their society, it's an insane contrast from how we act here in the US.


Yea, it's the non-japanese, the jews, the disabled, etc who have problems there because they're not members of the superior race :P

Seriously tho, it's a racist country.

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06 Aug 2016 16:33 #251105 by FTPC
I am sorry that I brought this topic or subject up on the tojo
next time Just tell me to shut up and I will :(

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06 Aug 2016 16:42 - 06 Aug 2016 16:50 #251106 by

FTPC wrote: I am sorry that I brought this topic or subject up on the tojo
next time Just tell me to shut up and I will :(

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Don't be sorry, dude. Discussion is worth having.

Edit: But also consider what lessons could be learned from this thread.
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06 Aug 2016 17:41 #251110 by Alethea Thompson
Yes they are. I'm not going to argue that, which is why I specified, lol.

I met a lot of great people too though. Those are the ones I'm friends with. :) I found the most hospitable place on mainland was Kyoto. Those that were hospitable elsewhere tended to work in Hostels. ^^

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06 Aug 2016 19:27 #251111 by Lykeios Little Raven

ren wrote:

Alethea Thompson wrote: Japan (overall) has a deep respect for every (Native Japanese) member of their society, it's an insane contrast from how we act here in the US.


Yea, it's the non-japanese, the jews, the disabled, etc who have problems there because they're not members of the superior race :P

Seriously tho, it's a racist country.


I've heard that too, but I figure not all Japanese are racist. It's probably stereotyping to say they're all or mostly racist. (Not that stereotypes don't exist for a reason...)

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06 Aug 2016 19:29 #251112 by Lykeios Little Raven

FTPC wrote: I am sorry that I brought this topic or subject up on the tojo
next time Just tell me to shut up and I will :(

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There's nothing wrong with discussing news events. I just think you may have misunderstood the article you shared a little bit. That happens, no worries.

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06 Aug 2016 22:24 - 06 Aug 2016 22:26 #251125 by Adder

Williamkaede wrote: It didn't get a great deal of coverage that I noticed, mostly I saw it from activist friends of mine and the /r/worldnews post on Reddit. The media is probably gonna report that it happened but it's something that happened, and has now been mostly resolved. It's not going to be this big, blown-out thing because it doesn't fit anybody's political agenda to hype it up.


It was on all the Australian mainstream news sources... well freetoair TV and newspapers at least, dunno about paytv. It was the lead story that day from what I remember of morning TV for example. There is plenty of bad stories around, so the news cycle is rather fast paced... blink and you miss it I guess.

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