The Practice Of Deep Breathing!!!!!

The Practice Of Deep Breathing!!!!!

When you take a breath you're not only giving power and oxygen to your body, you're taking in life-force. Breathing deeply over a period of time and practice can turn you into somewhat of a superhuman. Look at some of the most famous practioners of this subject:

Yogies

Shoalin Monks

Military Personell

Old-time Strongmen

Wrestlers

Gymnasts

Thats just to name a few but you get my point. Deep breathing creates your inner power and with a focused mind, you can control anything in your body you want. This type of practice is not for people who like to rush things and rather focus on the outside then on the inside. When you wake up in the morning, take in a few deep breaths and realize how energized you get just doing a few of these. Training is not about rushing it but going along with it smoothly and with flow. Never believe those people who say \"Deep breathing doesnt make you strong and you have to run and do aerobics to get lung power.\" Nothing can be further then the truth, truth is when you practice this not only will you be stronger but your organs will make everything in your body do things you never thought possible.

This has been done for millions of years if not billions. Deep breathing is the healthiest form of exercise there is and when you add other exercises watch your strength, stamina, agility, flexibility and lung power skyrocket. Its the ultimate anytime, anywhere way of training and if you're a bridging practioner, your timing will go through the roof and you would think you wern't in it that long when you were holding for a long time. Theres an old saying from an old-time wrestler \"Deep breathing alone can make a weak man strong and a sick man well.\" Try it sometime and you'll know what I mean.

Could you clarify what you mean by \"lung power\"?

It means your breathing is so strong that your endurance can last quite a long time. Lung power is an expression for great endurance. Say you're doing squats at a good rate at 300 within a 10min. period and you're breathing is very good thats one way to look at it.

So you're saying you can up your endurance and VO2 max just through deep breathing? Can you direct me to some research or articles on it? I completely believe that it's likely a valuable addition to one's fitness routine, but I'm still a little skeptical that it replaces aerobic/anaerobic exercise all together. I'd really like to hear more about it.

Yes you can up your endurance and vo2 max because when you breathe deeply either before or during a workout you're pumping oxygen to the body and the more you breathe deeply the more blood is running through the body and help building the cells. Not to sound like a scientist but this is from personal experience. I would advise looking up deep breathing for yourself and research what you can find. I can direct you to a few places but you still will be skeptical about it but read about the shaolin monks or what breathing can do for running and swimming, these are examples but research and see what you can find. It doesn't replace aerobic/anerobic exercise its apart of it its not one or the other. Aerobic is using oxygen and anerobic is using less oxygen like sprints but yet you still have to breathe. It has been proven that deep breathing through meditation can move up the metabolism. This is from personal experience and have mastered certain techniques on deep breathing but it can be different for you so find what you can.

Please don't misunderstand. I realize that there are certain aspects of health that have been researched in other countries, that still struggle for validation here in the States, Qi for instance. I'm familiar with the breathing practices of the Shaolin Monks and have done a great deal of study on their qigong techniques such as Ba Duan Jin and Yi Jin Jing. I was just wondering if you had stumbled across any scientific articles on this deep breathing as well (I just like seeing numbers is all). I really really do think there is a lot more to pushing the human potential than just mainstream exercise, so it isn't that I'm just a skeptic looking for things to debunk. In fact, sometimes it's neat to see modern science 'discover' what the ancients knew a thousand years prior. From personal experience I can definitely say that controlling the breath is essential to running, martial arts, and so forth.

DISAGREE
deep breath is only deep breath, is not a hidden power, is not a way, its \"maybe\" a tool
if its healthy, yes, but thats all

you need to mix it with your mind, with your inner power to make it work, so

and I don't know how many of you talking here do kung fu for real, i start at 6 years old, and i have 44

breath is breath and thats all, is not the breath,
do not mix

its good to have healthy lungs? YES,
it give you any power? NO
it help you in meditation? NO
it help you focusing? NO



sending O2 to your body, make it healthy, sending O2 to your brain, make some neuronal connections work better, but you can do the same without it

i agree, its nice, its important, and if you like to believe in that, and help you in any manner... good for you

but

is not necessary
is not mandatory
it doesn't give you anything than a more oxygenated body



\"From personal experience I can definitely say that controlling the breath is essential to running, martial arts, and so forth.\"


wrong, your breath need to be natural, if you are in control of your breath, you are using your focus to do that.

breathing \" with a good technique\" can be train, but NEVER, and read it again NEVER need to be controlled in any way,

and again is not the way, is the tool used to....

never mix health status with martial arts because its wrong

\"another thing\": \"I'm familiar with the breathing practices of the Shaolin Monks\"
i like to know from witch temple, or witch monk, (real) you are familiar with, because i can discuss that really long

breathing in that manner was not made to gain power, is only because its healthy, in the same way that is healthy to run, or walk

kung fu is not a martial art
monks don't believe in powers

so i like to know from where you grab the information,




- maybe sounds aggressive, is not, smile

Humans barely their lungs (animals are more productive), so deepbeath would be an advantage. I dont know what the effect would be on red blood cells on the long term, but on the short term there would probably be some form of hyperventilation(and related effects).

I use term Deep Breathing as a source of health and long term benefits. You're right the Shaolin Monks don't have powers persay but you have to admit they are pretty strong for men their size and feats and breathing plays a huge factor in that area with their flexibility. The reason why I have experienced it is through different forms of training and it helps me focus and makes time go quicker so I don't mind the disagreement but come on you can't throw off what I understand about technique. I practice the wrestler's bridge quite often (don't be getting on my case about that got pleny of it already) and I once held it for 3 min. while taking in only 9 breaths. Thats 3 breaths a min. and experienced no damage anywhere, no hyperventilation and no pain. You're right its not mandatory or really necessary but it should a practice and it does go well into martial arts and has been for thousands of years. Where do get my information who really cares. People will say this or that about it and want scientific proof, truth is its all about where you learn it from yourself and how you practice it. Anybody can tell you anything and you can disagree with me or not. The thing i'm trying to accomplish is that spreading a message that no one seems to spread around anymore and learn about it for themselves. Practice it thats all.

clear as water

read your blog article and this post, and Disagree,

because (and from what I see its not only me), you put the importance of deep breathing on top of any other. and you point to some things that are not true.

example: \"Breathing deeply over a period of time and practice can turn you into somewhat of a superhuman.\"
another of your citations \"The force as we know it in real life means Deep Breathing.\"

just its not true, and thats all, (and is not true, because you can not tell someone else what force is) maybe for you, breathing is your force, is up to you. but is not by rule


I din't find all the other citations, but like in my previous post you say
but \"I'm familiar with the breathing practices of the Shaolin Monks\" this one is to know your source of familiarization, because I know the only 2 True Real Monks and they never say something like that , all the new monks, from the modern schools, are not taken as real monks

so my point was, to know your familiar point with this.

is not against you.
and breathing is really important, and have like you say a training in breathing, can help your overall health . but THATS ALL. end, no powers, no mith, no anything, help in the precise measure. and ends there, can be used to make your physical training easier, or better, yes, all the others, as you point, are a FANTASY.


thats all

So, you can handle english, better than me, but I breathed enough, to know, whats true and whats not.

and your point, is not right, I'm in chat any time you need to discus this better, because here, can be a never ending... with no reason.

just maybe, you need to handle the wording, to express you, in a different way...


Stones, doesn't have Force?
and trees?

I think the most valid point that us being made is that everyone experiences the Force in their own way. Everyone's opinion is their own and whatever they practice is valid for them. It's hypocritical to tell someone they can't give an absolute assertion and then do so yourself. 666, you have in the past admonished people for requiring proof over experience and now you're doing the same thing. Perhaps you can each be tolerant of your differences?

Peace to you all,
MTFBWY

LOL ok you have your point of views I have mine but I'll tell you what the force does for me that nobody on this forum knows and should know. I practice strongman feats in the realm of bending steel, tearing up thick phonebooks (for real no faking) and hold and lever sledgehammers that would break most people's wrists. The Force has taught me focus and concentration and thinking into the muscles i'am working while doing these feats. Thats the physical side of the force I practice. The mental side of it helps me defend off negetive energy and what some people call energy vampires meaning people whos vibes are just full of bad things or just spills out bad energy fields. My view on the force is that with the proper training and an open mind you can achieve a goal in many ways you wish but it all starts with the thought and the breath. Breathing is a natural performance enhancer (I believe that because i've gone through it and taught others and it worked). You can disagree all you want I can take it but i'am human and do take certain things personally. I have many mentors and I don't practice everything they taught me I made up the foundation that pits the best of them together for my personal self mastery. Thats the key point I was making, deep breathing is a form of self mastery and when you learn to harness it everything else in life can fall into place whatever it may be. I'm no expert or scientist but I do have a big imagination and much of what I imagined came true when at first i thought it was impossible. It happens with all of us and deep breathing is a form of what we all strive for. Peace Of Mind.

Out of interest, have you heard of the shamanic trance technique of breathwork. It's similar to your breath control but is based on the concept that changing your depth, rate, style and location of breathing can alter your state of consciousness. It always produces profound results for me and my clients!

MTFBWY

I can not tell you what is it for you, but i can tell you what is not..

\"The force as we know it in real life means Deep Breathing.\"

and this IS NOT, just because, tress can not do a deep breath, or stones, or water, or....

so it's wrong, like it or not.

hypocritically or not, is the truth anyway


I like to be formal as you Mark, but in this I prefer to have a point and not washing my hands,
and because the Force is not only for breathing animals
that concept is wrong

any other discussion, please read the original, post, the original input in the blog, and thats all

if someone like to call marijuana the force , is up to that person, if that person feels, like marijuana is the real true force of the universe, its ok,
but the force for a jedi, I can tell you right now, is not deep breathing...

if what he say its true, we need to re write a lot, because now, the force is not in and around everything, its in and /or around only animals capable to do a deep breath.

if someone like to teach me how the true force of everything becomes in meaning deep breathing, I'm available 24/7/365 and I pay for everything fly tickets, hotel, and everything

666

I didn't think Ben meant that the Force was ONLY deep breathing but was referring to the aspect that he experiences. Ultimately, everything is the Force and the Force is everything so there's nothing that it can't be. Since we also realise the Force as a motivating energy, you can't deny the truth of his own experience and he can't claim that it's one particular thing and nothing else, since that would also be denying all of the other aspects of the Force.

That's what I meant by appreciating each other's differing points of view.

MTFBWY

That I will disagree with I feel the force is a form of deep breathing (the breathing force) helps you stay alive. If I feel i'm the only one who feels that way so be it but I know it is true to me. Just like Obiwan said \"It surrounds us, penetrates us and binds the galaxy together.\" So how is breathing not apart of the force. Yes trees don't breathe neither do stones but they apart of nature and plus trees are alive, they grow, they need nutrients they just dont move or talk but yet there are a living part of nature. Now if you disagree with that thats your problem and disagree with nature. Breathing is apart of our nature and breathing makes one the living force whether animal or plant so hey I believe it and you cant prove it to me otherwise.

Yes, breathing is a PART of the Force and gives us our vitality but I believe 666 interpreted your words as meaning that you think deep breathing is the whole of the Force, with nothing else involved.

MTFBWY

I believe that too and no I don't think of the force with nothing else I simply embrace it as a force for all the things that go on in everyday life.

I said: \"From personal experience I can definitely say that controlling the breath is essential to running, martial arts, and so forth.\"

666 said: \"wrong, your breath need to be natural, if you are in control of your breath, you are using your focus to do that.\"

Those who do not control their breath tend to hyperventilate and wear themselves out when fighting or when running. You can say I'm wrong, but I know what I've seen with my own two eyes. It's also fairly common knowledge in any martial art that actually fights, which is where my focus would be.

666 said: \"this one is to know your source of familiarization, because I know the only 2 True Real Monks and they never say something like that , all the new monks, from the modern schools, are not taken as real monks\"

You know the \"2 True Real Monks\"... well, I know Shaolin history and the Yi Jin Jing is universally recognized as authentic Shaolin curriculum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Jin_Jing

If you don't mind a few questions, I'd really like to know what kung fu you study, who are the \"2 True Real Monks\", and how you came to know them.

i'd like to know that myself....I too have studied shaolin history and have a video of a few monks doing some insane stunts that cannot be duplicated in my opinion.