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28 May 2016 04:58 #242514 by
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I just decided to go vegetarian for ethical reasons a few weeks ago. I used to eat a lot of meat. I now no longer eat any type of meat, but I am still eating some eggs and dairy products which I may end up giving up at a later date. Surprisingly I am not really craving meat, but I am eating more carbs then I did before. Any suggestions for how to keep the carbs down on a vegetarian diet ? I don't think being a carbatarian is healthy. I don't really like salad, but I do like most vegetables I just don't know how to cook them. I'm trying to teach myself to cook now.

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28 May 2016 05:59 #242519 by
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Mushrooms offer a wide range of flavor.
A steamer rack is a good way to cook most vegetables.
For some people, just cutting gluten can help with carbs. Do you like rice?

Good for you learning how to cook. I think that's one of the basic survival tools of being a human. Right there along with building a shelter and making clothes. I used to be a chef at a summer camp in California, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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30 May 2016 09:25 - 30 May 2016 09:26 #242698 by
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I don't think being a carbatarian is healthy. I don't really like salad, but I do like most vegetables I just don't know how to cook them. I'm trying to teach myself to cook now.


I am vegetarian :blush: Whatever you try to cook if you boil vegetables too long it will go from tasty to nasty and liquid! (sprouts) If you pick something that taste bad, and you add something tasty to it.. it will become tasty.. Like Sauerkraut , but as a oven dish for example! :side:

Combine not only common food in your diet, try forgotten vegetables too, like the Pattypan for example..! The way you add things to boil is highly important, just try things out.. If you do not have enough knowledge of this diet type however you can become ill easily..

PS. I do not like salad too.. :laugh:
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30 May 2016 13:58 #242706 by
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There are a lot of Vegan cookbooks out there , if you buy 2 of them you have a good range of ideas , i know you are not vegan , but i bought one of these to vary the way i cook veggies , i found out i like them stirr fried in a little oil hmm with Kurkuma and a little salt , nom nom :cheer:

http://www.vegan.com/cookbooks/

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09 Jun 2016 01:43 #244097 by thomaswfaulkner
My wife has this recipe for oven-baked mango habanero cauliflower that tastes just like chicken wings. I never thought that could fill me up but a quarter of the head suits me for at least 6-8 hours.

We tried being vegetarians for about 3 weeks (for ethical reasons as well) but we both felt physically drained and we were always hungry. We added fish to our diet about 2 months ago and we are slowly weening ourselves back off of it. Its been about 2 weeks now since the last time we had any.

Have you tried the black bean veggie burgers? Those are awesome.

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09 Jun 2016 01:57 #244098 by RyuJin
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thomaswfaulkner wrote: We tried being vegetarians for about 3 weeks (for ethical reasons as well) but we both felt physically drained and we were always hungry.
Have you tried the black bean veggie burgers? Those are awesome.


this....this is what happened to me when i tried to omit meat...after my appendectomy the dr said no meat for at least a week...after 3 days despite eating everything in sight that wasn't meat, i was so physically weakened that i was barely able to hold up my own weight...

now i'm diabetic and require mostly protein and fiber...i've tried those type of burgers and soy burgers...soy based foods make me sick, and anything not meat leaves me hungrier than before i ate it...

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02 Jan 2017 20:58 #270890 by
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You need carbs, there has been this idea pushed around to limit your carb intake as low as possible, when in reality, you need carbs. Your brain will starve without carbs http://nutritionfacts.org/

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02 Jan 2017 21:24 #270894 by Figment
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Like others have said, there are some really great cookbooks out there for vegetarians and vegans. Learning to cook for yourself is the best way to do things though. You will be surprised what you will find you like and don't like.

Another good suggestion is learning a number of hearty soups, such as minestrone, vegetable tomato, potato, cream of broccoli, and the like. For example for lunch today I am having homemade udon soup with tofu.

As a carb lover myself, I understand your dilemma. Having healthy carbs in your diet is important but also learning to enjoy and like as many veggies is as well. I have seen many vegetarians become sick from the mac n' cheese, bread, and pizza diet.

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02 Jan 2017 22:06 #270903 by
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Hi!
I'm Vegan and I eat often a mix of vegetables sauté with a starch (that is different for each meal)... And some cereals.
Good luck for your cooking!

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09 Mar 2017 03:05 #277938 by
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There is no research to show being a "carbatarian" is unhealthy! So long as the carbs you eat are mostly grains and veggies. I've been vegan for almost 2 years, the first 2 months were difficult. But eventually you find food that isn't fake and processed and is still very filling. Try beans, veggies, tofu, rice, chickpeas, fruit, and peanut butter, those are the staples.

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09 Mar 2017 12:54 - 09 Mar 2017 12:56 #277953 by Cyan Sarden
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I've been eating low-carb for almost a year. I'm no longer a vegetarian, but I'm certainly not a meat-lover, either. I'm trying to keep my meat intake to as little as possible. In order to keep the carbs down in a vegetarian diet, there are two things you need to do:

1. eat enough protein

2. eat enough fat

The first can be covered by eating soy products. These are extremely rich in protein and will keep you satiated for much longer than easy-burning carbs. They also allow you to still build and maintain muscle mass, which could be an issue if you rely on carbs only to keep you from getting hungry. Ovo-lacto vegetarianism is considered the healthiest kind - you can still eat eggs and cheese / dairy products - these also contain a lot of protein and fat so you don't go hungry all day.

The second is also done rather easily - there are plenty of veggies that are quite high in fat. Avocados, for example - these are very healthy and are known to not suck up pesticides too easily. Another good source of non-animal fat are nuts of any kind.

If you go vegetarian and / or vegan, it's not enough to simply eat more veggies. If you don't check where these come from, you could do yourself a major disservice. Pesticides and other chemicals in plants can cause cancers, wreak havoc on your central nervous system, cause allergies etc. A good way to get started is reading this:

https://globalnews.ca/news/3296249/the-dirty-dozen-and-clean-15-2017s-list-of-fruits-vegetables-with-the-most-pesticides/

Veggies and fruit that are listed on the dirty dozen list should only be consumed if you can obtain them organic.

Some of them (e.g. Kale) can be insanely healthy if you eat the organic variants, or extremely unhealthy if you just consume the standard high-pesticide version. Leafy greens in general suck up pollutants and chemicals to a worrisome degree.


From my personal experience, I'd not go vegan. It's not the healthiest lifestyle and it also means a massive cut into your quality of life if eating is one of your passions. I'm not saying you can't live well as a vegan, it's just that a lot of people aren't capable of maintaining a highly specialised diet without sooner or later ending up deficient. Both my cousin and brother-in-law are ER regulars because of their vegan diet. It something I'd never be able to sustain.

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21 Mar 2017 19:47 #278790 by
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I went vegetarian years ago with my partner. We went through the same phase with carbs. My advice is to stay away from high processed carbohydrates like white breads. Go for complex carbohydrates like carrots, whole grains, and potatoes.. you know, things with fiber in them. Make sure to drink water with them and the fiber will absorb it and help make you feel full. That way you can eat less carbohydrates and fee l like you ate a lot.

Remember someone can be vegetarian or vegan and eat nothing but popcorn, potato chips, and soda and will be unhealthy. Whole foods and a large variety is key to going down this path in a healthy manner.

As for cooking, as some noted before, steaming is excellent and easy. But steaming can easily result in mushy vegetables. Try learning how to blanch vegetables (great for broccoli among other vegetables). Basically it is boiling for just a few minutes and cooling the food with cold water. The food maintains firmness and nutrients, the color is a also tends to deepen and become more vivid.

Carbs are great for you, just not simple carbs. USDA.Gov has a lot of information on this too.

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04 Aug 2017 16:55 #294710 by
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I tookma quick run through this thread, so pardon if I missed a response that covered this. Legumes! Beans my friends! They're tasty, filling, and full of protein. Paired with whole grains, very complete. Many good recipes for making meat substitutes with beans. Lots of good veg and vegan products on the market now that can add lots of variety to your daily diet. Vegan isn't unhealthy and truly not hard to maintain. It does help if you learn some basic cooking. Don't fer crbs, just try to pick the most whole and unprocesed ones.

Here's a darn tasty tuna substitute for you.

CHICKPEA OF THE SEA

Drain 1can garbanzo beans.
Lightly pulse in food processor or hand mash. It should be coarse, not like hummus.
Add a tablespoon of kelp powder or more to taste
Add 1 tsp celery salt, 1/2 tsp dried mustard, any other herbs you like. Mix well.
Chop any raw veggies you enjoy in tuna. I use onion, bell pepper, carrots, cucumber, celery, and pickles. Add to chickpea mash and mix
Add mayo (if vegan use vegan kind) mix all together, voila!

I like mine in rice wrapper, but a tortilla or bread will do. I blanch collard, kale, or cabbage leaves, lay that inside my wrap, add above Chickpea mix, throw on a sliced tomato... pure delish. If you want to leave out the carb, use large blanched noted leaves above. Enjoy!

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26 Oct 2017 05:32 #304818 by
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Dont boil vegetables more.
Refer more dishes on http://www.eatingwell.com/recipes/19334/cooking-methods-styles/quick-easy/dinner/vegetable/

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