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11 Jun 2013 09:03 #108969 by Whyte Horse
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So who are the Jedi council? I understand there are 3 different organizations here with different roles like the TOTJO council, the legally named people on the totjo registration, and the jediism people with their ranks. So is there some other jedi council? Like one that has all the jedis from all the sites or something like that?

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11 Jun 2013 09:08 #108970 by
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No such council to my knowledge. However TOTJO.org has council members from different locations like the UK and the US. Unfortunately there aren't many Jedi sites that are still active. =/

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11 Jun 2013 09:34 #108972 by Whyte Horse
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OK thanks, that answers my question.

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12 Jun 2013 04:29 #109092 by RyuJin
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Me and several others in the past have attempted to organize an independent council to represent all the orders....this however proved difficult because as was pointed out...not many active orders left...and getting them to come together for pretty much anything is a chore in itself...

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12 Jun 2013 06:50 #109106 by
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Well here's the Jedi Council http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/council

But I wouldn't say we had 3 different organisations here. We are one organisation at TotJO and all of us are legally recognisable members of the church (if we have taken the oath and application). We have two separate ranking structures, the clergy path and the Knight path but both intertwine with each other...

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12 Jun 2013 08:08 #109110 by
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Just to add extra clarification:

The ranks are awarded to members based upon the training they complete and advancements they make while studying and interacting here (and in the outside world too!).

The Council is a group of members who oversee the administration and direction of TOTJO.

Some of us are also on the "Board of Directors" - in other words, we take the legal responsibility for TOTJO since it is an internationally recognised and legally incorporated.

As Akkarin mentioned, there is also the Clerical path and this is also another "stream" within TOTJO.

So all of these are roles, ranks and offices that are all part of the whole organisation. I hope this makes sense :)

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13 Jun 2013 01:44 #109256 by
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RyuJin wrote: Me and several others in the past have attempted to organize an independent council to represent all the orders....this however proved difficult because as was pointed out...not many active orders left...and getting them to come together for pretty much anything is a chore in itself...


Do we keep in contact with the other orders which are still active, Ryu?
Or have is there little connectivity between TOTJO and the remaining active orders?
A universal Jedi council would be extremely difficult to work out, and I am quite happy with the system here.
However, perhaps engaging them might help to keep our brethren informed and aware of others out there?

Just my thoughts :) Thanks for the clarification regarding the structuring of the council, everyone!

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13 Jun 2013 02:20 #109265 by Jestor
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Many of us belong to other Jedi sites as well....;)

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13 Jun 2013 02:53 - 13 Jun 2013 02:54 #109271 by
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Aha.

That clears things up nicely ;)

Thank you, Jestor :p
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13 Jun 2013 04:23 #109280 by RyuJin
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Jestor wrote: Many of us belong to other Jedi sites as well....;)


:laugh: yeah what he said....

I have membership at a couple other sites, though I haven't been to them in years....

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13 Jun 2013 23:35 #109371 by Brenna
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So how does it work? Are members elected on or nominated? Are there certain skills or qualifications or levels of comittement needed as a requirement?



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14 Jun 2013 00:41 #109379 by Jestor
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When there is an open position, the current Council begins looking for a candidate...


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14 Jun 2013 00:41 #109380 by Jestor
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Here at TOTJO, anyway...

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14 Jun 2013 00:53 #109381 by Brenna
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Jestor wrote: When there is an open position, the current Council begins looking for a candidate...


Ah ok. so its more a case of finding the right fit for the temples needs rather than a list of tick box requirements. Makes sense, thanks.



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14 Jun 2013 01:28 #109386 by ren
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We do require an oath of office nowadays and there's a testing period before a councillor becomes a director of the corporation.

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14 Jun 2013 04:22 #109430 by Wescli Wardest
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Jestor wrote: When there is an open position, the current Council begins looking for a candidate...


Out of curiosity... how do you know when a position is open? I mean, could there not be "open" positions on the council currently? Is there a set number which has to be stuck to? Are there requirements, or a structure, for the individual that fills the seat of office which governs requirements and/or obligations of the individual council member?

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14 Jun 2013 11:03 #109458 by Jestor
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Wescli Wardest wrote: Out of curiosity... how do you know when a position is open? I mean, could there not be "open" positions on the council currently? Is there a set number which has to be stuck to? Are there requirements, or a structure, for the individual that fills the seat of office which governs requirements and/or obligations of the individual council member?


Well im glad you ask!

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Like was stated in another, "hotly contested" rule in another conversation, ;), there are no "hard rules", more like feelings, interpretation, and a consensus from the current Council....

The quick answer is no, there is no "set number", "specific requirements", or "currently open positions"...

V-Tog and Ren, have been the only members recruited for specific reasons... Ren actually was kept in the sidelines for a long while as site admin only, before being ask to join Council....

Remember, we are a new organization... People drop out of the internet like crazy... lol...

Look at the list of knights, how many do you know, how many still active?

I believe I was ask because I am very active....

My office, and specific job grew out of need... The need for structure and consistancy in the ranks... I've surprised a few with my length of membership, and still almost daily log ins....;)

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14 Jun 2013 18:03 #109483 by
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Lorian wrote: Do we keep in contact with the other orders which are still active, Ryu?
Or have is there little connectivity between TOTJO and the remaining active orders?
A universal Jedi council would be extremely difficult to work out, and I am quite happy with the system here.
However, perhaps engaging them might help to keep our brethren informed and aware of others out there?


I happen to know some of the 'leaders' of other sites personally but not in any sort of official capacity.

I liken a single cohesive group to a single cohesive Christian organisation. Ask the question: "Why don't Christians just become one church?"...

The best answer is simply that there is no real need... we are getting on fine doing our own thing, we have no quarrels with any other groups and don't ban people for belonging to them...

That in my mind is the ideal situation. People just doing what they like to do and getting on with each other... I see no reason for us to be united and don't see how it would make us 'stronger'...

The list of knights that Jestor mentioned: http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/teachers I keep it up to date so people should know that I'm Watching Them! :whistle: :evil:

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15 Jun 2013 04:59 #109516 by RyuJin
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As long as it's not while I'm in the shower or on the toilet (or loo for you brits) :cheer:

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18 Jun 2013 14:51 #109794 by
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What are some other sites people belong to that are good? I haven't really found anything that compares to what we have here.

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