What Does Your Belief Influence?

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24 Mar 2013 18:58 #99607 by Proteus
To help keep another thread on topic, I thought I'd start this thread to proceed with another topic that was started in it.

What do you believe your "beliefs" (or even religion), influence in your life?

Can it play a role in making you smarter? Stronger? More fit?

How relevant is it in these ways if at all?

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24 Mar 2013 19:08 - 24 Mar 2013 19:10 #99609 by
Belief is intrinsic to every aspect of consciousness, from how we view ourselves (thus influencing our actions) to how we view and interact with others.
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24 Mar 2013 19:11 #99611 by
I can believe I can fly, I can be even confident in that belief, doesn't make it so.

Confidence doesn't give you muscular strength, your training does.

Training trumps belief every time.

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24 Mar 2013 19:14 #99612 by

maynoth wrote: I can believe I can fly, I can be even confident in that belief, doesn't make it so.

Confidence doesn't give you muscular strength, your training does.

Training trumps belief every time.


Why did you start training? Because you believed it would work...

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24 Mar 2013 19:24 #99614 by

Zenchi wrote:

maynoth wrote: I can believe I can fly, I can be even confident in that belief, doesn't make it so.

Confidence doesn't give you muscular strength, your training does.

Training trumps belief every time.


Why did you start training? Because you believed it would work...


I observed it would work.

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24 Mar 2013 19:39 #99615 by

maynoth wrote:

Zenchi wrote:

maynoth wrote: I can believe I can fly, I can be even confident in that belief, doesn't make it so.

Confidence doesn't give you muscular strength, your training does.

Training trumps belief every time.


Why did you start training? Because you believed it would work...


I observed it would work.


lol, Call it what you want, I call it bad English...

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24 Mar 2013 21:14 #99621 by
English sucks. Words are irrelevant. Don't make it into a semantics debate.

Maynoth: you mean you saw something happened and you realized that with training you could accomplish something similar. Practicality only.

Zenchi: Belief can apply to the ideas above. Our brain interprets EVERYTHING we ever ingest (through any sense). So, yes, everything is a belief. But, at the same time, in our functional language, belief implies a suspension of reality. Like, I believe in "god". I believe in "you". I believe in this "box". It's separated from the realities of god, you, or the box.

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24 Mar 2013 21:26 - 24 Mar 2013 21:44 #99623 by
Yes.

Watching people lift weights and grow muscular as a result, stimulus and response, direct observation.
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24 Mar 2013 21:38 #99625 by
So, to answer the OP: Belief influences EVERYTHING. It can inspire you to work harder, to work for a cause, to do anything worth doing.

If you do not observe or believe in something, then it is very hard to live a purposeful life.

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24 Mar 2013 22:10 #99636 by

Connor Lidell wrote: So, to answer the OP: Belief influences EVERYTHING. It can inspire you to work harder, to work for a cause, to do anything worth doing.

If you do not observe or believe in something, then it is very hard to live a purposeful life.


Well what you believe may help you get your life together sure... but believing you are super strong and can bench press 500lbs doesn't make it so.

Training, hard work, diligence, correct methods, that's what will make you bench press 500lbs, not a belief.

That's what I am getting at.

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