jedism and demons

My phones dying but I really wanted to spark a good convesation on here. As a group of liberally educated and minded people what are your views on interdementional beings and psychkenetic energy. beyond this subject what about plain walking or astrial projection. I like to hear input from people. one last freakishly compulsive thought hydrogen is far mor efficient than gasoline and other petrolium based fuels and is a major energy source for all life on earth. H2O is all over but we cant harness molecule spliting to better solve the energy needs on our home.

I'm not I understand your question?

The only deamons that live and have any influence on our lives reside in our minds.

I was just asking about the views on possibity of existence of such beings. You have already stated you thought on the subject. There is no right or wrong answer that I know about. However as you personal thought on your answer what makes such a creature not exist? As a criminal justice graduate and a student in electrical engineering I look for facts professionally on things I can prove. On issues that are metiphysical I am out of my field so I ask my peers.

Does it matter if they are real, so long as the experience is real to the person having it..... or to what extent should it matter? All we can probably do is develop our own opinions based on our own experiences, if its of interest, but...

... the mind is a very powerful thing. I find it rather hard to differentiate between what would be a product of the subconscious slipping into the conscious mind, or genuine supernatural manifestations. My dreams are very real and very complex and creative often, but I do not think they represent much more then the unconscious mind.

I do find it an interesting avenue to consider, and in my experiences it has left me teetering on the edge of belief, half thinking yes and half unsatisfied with that which might lead me to believe in it. It does seem like a 2 way street though, both sides need to want something from the experience, or perhaps any connection creates a flow in both directions which is perceived in terms of how the experience might be approached/interpreted (culture).

forsakengrounds wrote: I was just asking about the views on possibity of existence of such beings. You have already stated you thought on the subject. There is no right or wrong answer that I know about. However as you personal thought on your answer what makes such a creature not exist? As a criminal justice graduate and a student in electrical engineering I look for facts professionally on things I can prove. On issues that are metiphysical I am out of my field so I ask my peers.

Thoughts are real. Dreams are reeL

Facts and the metiphysical? That's a thought.

Speak for yourself. I personally have seen things that have brought me to the belief that other entities exist outside of the "physical plane". But I do not believe that it is something which Jediism should dictate- more something which should be explored and determined by an individual what they believe.

Adder wrote: Does it matter if they are real, so long as the experience is real to the person having it..... or to what extent should it matter? All we can probably do is develop our own opinions based on our own experiences, if its of interest, but...

It matters when you talk with others and try to convince them of your position...

If that isn't what you're trying to do, as in you keep it private and treat it as such, then I have no issue

Personally I don't believe deamons exist at all

...the God Emperor of Mankind protects us against such despicable warp-spawned creatures... :whistle: You all know it's true dammit!

Alethea Thompson wrote: Speak for yourself. I personally have seen things that have brought me to the belief that other entities exist outside of the "physical plane". But I do not believe that it is something which Jediism should dictate- more something which should be explored and determined by an individual what they believe.

I agree.

If I experience a demon, if I see a ghost, if I talk to god, are these not real experiences I am having?

Regardless of whether demons, god, or ghosts exists, if I am experiencing them, than that experience is real to me. Reality is perception, what we experience is real to us.

Do demons, ghosts, or astral beings exist? I have no idea, and I don't think many people on this forum could answer this definitively, if anyone could, but it's worth the discussion. Who knows if they are real, but the experiences that come about from them are definitely real.

Coryduran wrote: Do demons, ghosts, or astral beings exist? I have no idea, and I don't think many people on this forum could answer this definitively, if anyone could, but it's worth the discussion. Who knows if they are real, but the experiences that come about from them are definitely real.

Definitely. What's 'real' exactly? They might be 'real experiences', as to what they mean? Well that is then left up to you to interpret. What you do given something you think is real is what really matters...