What is enlightenment?
09 Oct 2012 18:31 #75982
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This is what I started to think of in my journal, but I'd figure I would open it up for discussion. I wrote a much better version in my journal and posted it on my blog...but here it is:
“To awaken from the illusion is then to undergo a radical change of consciousness with regard to one’s own existence. It is to cease being under the impression that you are just “poor little me,” and to realize who you really are, or what you really are behind the mask.” – Alan Watts
Enlightenment is our desire to awaken ourselves into another state. It is about going beyond your current self and empowerment. There are many paths of enlightenment, this internal alchemy of the self. Enlightenment is our desire to change ourselves, from silver, to a new state, gold. It becomes not just an “oh poor me” anymore. Self Pity has no place within the path of enlightenment. Yet if you do not know your Self than how can you change the Self? The first goal of an initiate is to learn about themselves. These are our flaws, strengths, wants, needs, desires, personality, values, etc. Can you fill a page or a book, or does it go beyond just mere simple words?
Early when I looked at this quote, all I could think of the process of change and ridding one’s self of illusions. I first asked myself the question above, what is enlightenment? Is the goal transformation? Transformation into what? Does this transformation empower you? How does it empower you? Does this transformation give you the tools you want? What are these tools that you want or now have? If the process of enlightenment has helped you past the illusions, what are these illusions? How has the current path helped you with these illusions? How, what, and why these are important questions to relentlessly ask the Self.
Enlightenment has become to me, a path of transformation, a change in the way we think and we act. Ever heard the saying, “What would Jesus do?” I once, told myself “Act like Buddha.” We choose to try and emancipate a certain role model within the paradigm of thought that we are trying to achieve. What is religion, philosophy, the “way of” but a process of changing us to be a certain type of being? When we have Buddha as our role model, we are trying to make ourselves be compassionate and free of suffering. On that road though towards the “enlightened” state of Buddha, there are many inner changes that goes through.
There are many stages through this process, i.e. novice, initiate, apprentice, then journeyman, knight, adept, magus then there is the master, grandmaster, arch-something. Or an extremely simple way of it is beginner, intermediate, advanced and expert. As the beginner we are a mere a student learning about the basics of this path that we have chosen. As an intermediate we have gone through a process of initiation and truly joining the path. This is where our knowledge becomes more advanced, it is no longer just books, but applying the most basic steps. Then when we are proficient we become “advanced” within our path. This is where we are not just a mere student, our knowledge, our transformation is far from the beginner we used to be. This is where say in a craft we are journeyman, or we are a “knight.” When we hit the level of expert, this is where we are recognized as a master of our path. The inner alchemy we have gone through has become rather refined and that the person we were as a beginner is no longer as recognizable. Yet there is still more to learn and more to refine. This is the stage where we are most often the teacher, versus the first three stages. The first three stages, especially the first two is that if discovery. The third stage is still part of this discovery but it is more refinement than anything which is where it slides into Master. We all learn from each other, but this is the general path towards enlightenment. We are always students, always learning. I would like to point out even with those four stages there can be many sub-levels within it. This is just a general guide.
“To awaken from the illusion is then to undergo a radical change of consciousness with regard to one’s own existence. It is to cease being under the impression that you are just “poor little me,” and to realize who you really are, or what you really are behind the mask.” – Alan Watts
Enlightenment is our desire to awaken ourselves into another state. It is about going beyond your current self and empowerment. There are many paths of enlightenment, this internal alchemy of the self. Enlightenment is our desire to change ourselves, from silver, to a new state, gold. It becomes not just an “oh poor me” anymore. Self Pity has no place within the path of enlightenment. Yet if you do not know your Self than how can you change the Self? The first goal of an initiate is to learn about themselves. These are our flaws, strengths, wants, needs, desires, personality, values, etc. Can you fill a page or a book, or does it go beyond just mere simple words?
Early when I looked at this quote, all I could think of the process of change and ridding one’s self of illusions. I first asked myself the question above, what is enlightenment? Is the goal transformation? Transformation into what? Does this transformation empower you? How does it empower you? Does this transformation give you the tools you want? What are these tools that you want or now have? If the process of enlightenment has helped you past the illusions, what are these illusions? How has the current path helped you with these illusions? How, what, and why these are important questions to relentlessly ask the Self.
Enlightenment has become to me, a path of transformation, a change in the way we think and we act. Ever heard the saying, “What would Jesus do?” I once, told myself “Act like Buddha.” We choose to try and emancipate a certain role model within the paradigm of thought that we are trying to achieve. What is religion, philosophy, the “way of” but a process of changing us to be a certain type of being? When we have Buddha as our role model, we are trying to make ourselves be compassionate and free of suffering. On that road though towards the “enlightened” state of Buddha, there are many inner changes that goes through.
There are many stages through this process, i.e. novice, initiate, apprentice, then journeyman, knight, adept, magus then there is the master, grandmaster, arch-something. Or an extremely simple way of it is beginner, intermediate, advanced and expert. As the beginner we are a mere a student learning about the basics of this path that we have chosen. As an intermediate we have gone through a process of initiation and truly joining the path. This is where our knowledge becomes more advanced, it is no longer just books, but applying the most basic steps. Then when we are proficient we become “advanced” within our path. This is where we are not just a mere student, our knowledge, our transformation is far from the beginner we used to be. This is where say in a craft we are journeyman, or we are a “knight.” When we hit the level of expert, this is where we are recognized as a master of our path. The inner alchemy we have gone through has become rather refined and that the person we were as a beginner is no longer as recognizable. Yet there is still more to learn and more to refine. This is the stage where we are most often the teacher, versus the first three stages. The first three stages, especially the first two is that if discovery. The third stage is still part of this discovery but it is more refinement than anything which is where it slides into Master. We all learn from each other, but this is the general path towards enlightenment. We are always students, always learning. I would like to point out even with those four stages there can be many sub-levels within it. This is just a general guide.
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10 Oct 2012 01:03 #76005
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What is not enlightenment?
By the way, should you meet the Buddha, kill him.
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What is enlightenment?
What is not enlightenment?
By the way, should you meet the Buddha, kill him.
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10 Oct 2012 01:49 #76008
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Why should I kill Buddha? lol
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Streen wrote:
What is enlightenment?
What is not enlightenment?
By the way, should you meet the Buddha, kill him.
Why should I kill Buddha? lol
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10 Oct 2012 03:08 #76012
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I believe it was Linji Yixuan (d. 866) a Chinese Zen Buddhist monk who said, "If you meet Buddha on the road kill him".
The road is the path to Satori, the awakening. The Buddha is any concept you'll come up with for Buddha (or Satori for that matter). Those notions will not be Buddha or enlightenment so kill them and move on.
The road is the path to Satori, the awakening. The Buddha is any concept you'll come up with for Buddha (or Satori for that matter). Those notions will not be Buddha or enlightenment so kill them and move on.
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10 Oct 2012 03:12 #76013
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Oohhh I get it. I am not sure what is "enlightenment" except a path of transformation that we continually go through. So when are we enlightened? Never? Or in small moments, when a seedling blooms?
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10 Oct 2012 03:32 #76014
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Yea I'd agree as an action its a transformative adjustment to ones perspective or ability to perceive, but as a state could it be a level of perpetual ecstasy by self modulation of neurochemicals, which might require compassion to perpetuate it?
That is my non-spiritual explanation at least!! My spiritual one is just becoming attuned to the Force in a perpetual manner as a tool of conscious awareness... ie; enlightened to the Force around us in the most tangible way the mind can handle persistantly.
That is my non-spiritual explanation at least!! My spiritual one is just becoming attuned to the Force in a perpetual manner as a tool of conscious awareness... ie; enlightened to the Force around us in the most tangible way the mind can handle persistantly.
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10 Oct 2012 03:33 - 10 Oct 2012 03:39 #76015
by Br. John
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Enlightenment is also called Awakening or Satori. There may be varying degrees of flashes of insight.
What Is Zen? by Alan Watt is a good start. From there I might go to The Way of Zen by Watts and anything by D.T. Suzuki.
What Is Zen? by Alan Watt is a good start. From there I might go to The Way of Zen by Watts and anything by D.T. Suzuki.
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10 Oct 2012 03:36 #76016
by Br. John
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The Sound of One Hand
The master of Kennin temple was Mokurai, Silent Thunder. He had a little protégé named Toyo who was only twelve years old. Toyo saw the older disciples visit the master's room each morning and evening to receive instruction in sanzen or personal guidence in which they were given koans to stop mind-wandering.
Toyo wished to do sanzen also.
"Wait a while," said Mokurai. "You are too young."
But the child insisted, so the teacher finally consented.
In the evening little Toyo went at the proper time to the threshold of Mokurai's sanzen room. He struck the gong to announce his presence, bowed respectfully three times outside the door, and went to sit before the master in respectful silence.
"You can hear the sound of two hands when they clap together," said Mokurai. "Now show me the sound of one hand."
Toyo bowed and went to his room to consider this problem. From his window he could hear the music of the geishas. "Ah, I have it!" he proclaimed.
The next evening, when his teacher asked him to illustrate the sound of one hand, Toyo began to play the music of the geishas.
"No, no," said Mokurai. "That will never do. That is not the sound of one hand. You've not got it at all."
Thinking that such music might interrupt, Toyo moved his abode to a quiet place. He meditated again. "What can the sound of one hand be?" He happened to hear some water dripping. "I have it," imagined Toyo.
When he next appeared before his teacher, he imitated dripping water.
"What is that?" asked Mokurai. "That is the sound of dripping water, but not the sound of one hand. Try again."
In vain Toyo meditated to hear the sound of one hand. He heard the sighing of the wind. But the sound was rejected.
He heard the cry of an owl. This was also refused.
The sound of one hand was not the locusts.
For more than ten times Toyo visited Mokurai with different sounds. All were wrong. For almost a year he pondered what the sound of one hand might be.
At last Toyo entered true meditation and transcended all sounds. "I could collect no more," he explained later, "so I reached the soundless sound."
Toyo had realized the sound of one hand.
The master of Kennin temple was Mokurai, Silent Thunder. He had a little protégé named Toyo who was only twelve years old. Toyo saw the older disciples visit the master's room each morning and evening to receive instruction in sanzen or personal guidence in which they were given koans to stop mind-wandering.
Toyo wished to do sanzen also.
"Wait a while," said Mokurai. "You are too young."
But the child insisted, so the teacher finally consented.
In the evening little Toyo went at the proper time to the threshold of Mokurai's sanzen room. He struck the gong to announce his presence, bowed respectfully three times outside the door, and went to sit before the master in respectful silence.
"You can hear the sound of two hands when they clap together," said Mokurai. "Now show me the sound of one hand."
Toyo bowed and went to his room to consider this problem. From his window he could hear the music of the geishas. "Ah, I have it!" he proclaimed.
The next evening, when his teacher asked him to illustrate the sound of one hand, Toyo began to play the music of the geishas.
"No, no," said Mokurai. "That will never do. That is not the sound of one hand. You've not got it at all."
Thinking that such music might interrupt, Toyo moved his abode to a quiet place. He meditated again. "What can the sound of one hand be?" He happened to hear some water dripping. "I have it," imagined Toyo.
When he next appeared before his teacher, he imitated dripping water.
"What is that?" asked Mokurai. "That is the sound of dripping water, but not the sound of one hand. Try again."
In vain Toyo meditated to hear the sound of one hand. He heard the sighing of the wind. But the sound was rejected.
He heard the cry of an owl. This was also refused.
The sound of one hand was not the locusts.
For more than ten times Toyo visited Mokurai with different sounds. All were wrong. For almost a year he pondered what the sound of one hand might be.
At last Toyo entered true meditation and transcended all sounds. "I could collect no more," he explained later, "so I reached the soundless sound."
Toyo had realized the sound of one hand.
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10 Oct 2012 04:55 #76018
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Little steps of our journey, stories, etc. that show us the way, "enlighten" our minds to a different way.
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10 Oct 2012 05:31 #76020
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Really interesting stuff!

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