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Ordinary, Or faithfull? You must choose...
01 Sep 2012 23:25 #71986
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This is long over due.
I am writing this as a call to anyone with an ounce of faith in the jedi religion and the force (which is kind of nessesary if you belive in a Jedi religion
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The trouble I'm seeing is that there are only the particular ranks of the Jedi Knights and upwards, plus the ranks that it takes to "get there." I think the main cause of this is a kind weird sense of "responsibility" that has been placed upon us not to belive that we are living in a universe that contains anything from what we, out of "responsibly" call fiction. There are many things that appeer to be fiction, but are in fact not. Meaning you might not belive the truth even if you are told it. There are also things that are indeed fiction and become a reality, depending on the level of faith of the person who wants to do something about it and ability to get people to help them.
This is NOT simply an attack on the ranking system of this particular order. What I am saying is that, because none of us really belive anything we read or watch (which in itself is quite a good quality, don't get me wrong) we have become acustomed to beliving nothing, even Georg Lucas's masterpice that was designed entirely to inspire people of their own religion, and introduce the topics of various religions to young children who hadn't had the chance.
So, as you can see, i'm rather miffed that there are no "service corps."
and no other opertunities for people other than to become Jedi knights or masters. I allways thought that Star wars was the kind of odd-one-out of all the films that people watched and it was kind of the one that just about everybody had faith in. For me, it's just that you're only telling half of the story.
heh, take my own religeos studies, for example. "Things exist, mearly through the process of naming"
So, something can quite easily be "Barriss Offee" or a "Jedi Medical-Corps." As long as it is a valid basis for imputing such things.
I've come accross alot of situations where I'm asked to deny my faith in such things and be "on side" with the ordinary and also gain alot of power through "spiritual practice," as it is known.
I don't see where the morality, let alone inspiration is in all of this ordinaryness
I am writing this as a call to anyone with an ounce of faith in the jedi religion and the force (which is kind of nessesary if you belive in a Jedi religion

The trouble I'm seeing is that there are only the particular ranks of the Jedi Knights and upwards, plus the ranks that it takes to "get there." I think the main cause of this is a kind weird sense of "responsibility" that has been placed upon us not to belive that we are living in a universe that contains anything from what we, out of "responsibly" call fiction. There are many things that appeer to be fiction, but are in fact not. Meaning you might not belive the truth even if you are told it. There are also things that are indeed fiction and become a reality, depending on the level of faith of the person who wants to do something about it and ability to get people to help them.
This is NOT simply an attack on the ranking system of this particular order. What I am saying is that, because none of us really belive anything we read or watch (which in itself is quite a good quality, don't get me wrong) we have become acustomed to beliving nothing, even Georg Lucas's masterpice that was designed entirely to inspire people of their own religion, and introduce the topics of various religions to young children who hadn't had the chance.
So, as you can see, i'm rather miffed that there are no "service corps."

heh, take my own religeos studies, for example. "Things exist, mearly through the process of naming"
So, something can quite easily be "Barriss Offee" or a "Jedi Medical-Corps." As long as it is a valid basis for imputing such things.
I've come accross alot of situations where I'm asked to deny my faith in such things and be "on side" with the ordinary and also gain alot of power through "spiritual practice," as it is known.
I don't see where the morality, let alone inspiration is in all of this ordinaryness
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01 Sep 2012 23:35 #71987
by PatrickB
The one that posses with a devices is responsible for others . Being at large is brought too my attention . An armor is the key to unarm devices .
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I totally agree with you . brought up that it is the amount a believe that you consider true and that fiction often come true and it is right there in society and often people denies that the fact of solid behavior .
The one that posses with a devices is responsible for others . Being at large is brought too my attention . An armor is the key to unarm devices .
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02 Sep 2012 01:24 - 02 Sep 2012 02:14 #71992
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Let me see if I'm understanding your point correctly (please correct me if I'm mistaken):
Because of the way society is set up, our default mode of thinking is to not have faith in things (so, for example, if someone wants to accomplish something great, the default response from others tends to be one of skepticism) Because we don't have faith in the ability of others (or ourselves), we don't innovate or support new projects very readily.
So, here in the temple, you are disappointed that we currently have a ranking system from novice-master, and that we haven't branched out into other arenas (like the service corps). This lack of faith in the ability to do what we think cannot be done sucks away much of the inspiration we glean from religion.
Please correct any point I've gotten wrong, or elaborate on any point I may have overlooked. I want to make sure I clearly understand the meaning of your post before I comment on it
Because of the way society is set up, our default mode of thinking is to not have faith in things (so, for example, if someone wants to accomplish something great, the default response from others tends to be one of skepticism) Because we don't have faith in the ability of others (or ourselves), we don't innovate or support new projects very readily.
So, here in the temple, you are disappointed that we currently have a ranking system from novice-master, and that we haven't branched out into other arenas (like the service corps). This lack of faith in the ability to do what we think cannot be done sucks away much of the inspiration we glean from religion.
Please correct any point I've gotten wrong, or elaborate on any point I may have overlooked. I want to make sure I clearly understand the meaning of your post before I comment on it

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02 Sep 2012 01:57 #71997
by Adder
If you had the funding available, I'm sure the Council would be keen to look at your offer to see if it would be suitable to add to the Temple. The concept seems well within the purview of the doctrine.
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Jackofalltrades wrote: So, as you can see, i'm rather miffed that there are no "service corps."
If you had the funding available, I'm sure the Council would be keen to look at your offer to see if it would be suitable to add to the Temple. The concept seems well within the purview of the doctrine.
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02 Sep 2012 05:10 #72003
by Br. John
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The Order offers training. It's not a requirement for membership.
Anyone who wishes to volunteer personal service or money to a good cause should do so.
That's ordinary and faithful. Problem solved.
Anyone who wishes to volunteer personal service or money to a good cause should do so.
That's ordinary and faithful. Problem solved.
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02 Sep 2012 06:31 #72004
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always the wise on my dear Br John
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02 Sep 2012 16:07 - 02 Sep 2012 16:08 #72035
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Hmm, thankyou all for your replies. You all seem to have gotten my point ok.
Infact I did offer my I.T. skills but, as ren said, he is on only a single server, and well I haven't exactly finished my studies yet.
Just a thought :whistle:
Infact I did offer my I.T. skills but, as ren said, he is on only a single server, and well I haven't exactly finished my studies yet.
Just a thought :whistle:
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03 Sep 2012 00:56 #72077
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Why reinvent the wheel... you want to serve some permanent ideal? Then do it.
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