Rhode Island Girl Violence - A Deceptive and Despicable Act of Young Violence and Evil.

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07 Aug 2012 03:05 #69484 by

(This is only the preview, since the whole Dr. Phil episode costs money. Look for it if you're interested in seeing more.)

Now, first of all, I want to explain that I have NEVER been a fan of Dr. Phil. In my opinion, his shows are biased and unhelpful, and cover only the most disturbing material. So I really never watch him. However, I was drawn to this episode of Dr. Phil. Why?

The background info: In Rhode Island, 4 girls invited the (victim) girl to a sleepover - the (victim) girl not knowing what was about to happen to her. When she arrived, they ganged up and beat her head vigorously. One of them video taped the assault and posted it on YouTube. The international media went hysterical. They claimed that the "4 girls lured the victim and beat her, even though they knew she had a brain problem". Whether or not the media was fair or biased, it is certain that the attacking 4 girls committed a crime, and they now face felony charges and lawsuits. One of the mothers, of the attacking girls, has said that she has lost all control of her daughter, and that she wants her (the attacking girl and her daughter) to be locked up.


As you can see, this whole situation was and is sickening. I can't help but think about how these 4 girls might have ruined their future success and life by doing this one act of extreme violence.

On a side note, we Jedi believe in moving on past the past. However, I'm sure that if any Jedi claimed to have done this sort of thing in the past, it would haunt him or her for the rest of his or her life. These types of traumatizing and truthfully EVIL behaviors will not fade away.


What really surprised me, however, was that all these girls (the attackers) were very pretty girls. In addition, they claimed to have good grades in school. I really wonder how these pretty and (supposedly) smart girls could have become hardened criminals.


I forgot to mention that these attacking girls met up with the victim girl on this show. And they showed NO remorse for their actions. Moreover, none of them apologized at first, and Dr. Phil had to break their spirits in order to get a basic apology out of any of them.


These attacking girls actions, at the time of the assault, were morally wrong. However, above all that, the way they responded to the attack (which could have diffused the situation) was despicable (because they showed no remorse or humbleness for what they did).




Personally, I'm furious.
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07 Aug 2012 03:27 - 07 Aug 2012 03:30 #69487 by Adder
It's not much to go on, but they might just not be very smart and probably lived a shielded life....I've been told by an attractive lady that sometimes really attractive girls can experience a strange situation where they grow up being the centre of attention constantly just because they are pretty, and they end up developing a whole value system based on getting more and more attention.

When that happens sometimes since it's all they've known, when they are not (or fear becoming not) perceived as the centre of attention anymore, they can develop some unusual habits such as body image disorders, self mutiliation and attention seeking violance perhaps like is demonstrated in this video.

It might explain why they somehow assert blame onto the victim because if the vitcim had a pre-existing mental condition then the 'pretty' girls might have thought she was taking attention away from them. Looking at the victim, who would also be considered physically attractive surely, I guess they might have felt threatened by her looks as well. Peer dynamics can also make individuals do things they would not do on their own because a cycle of reinforcement within a circle of people can override ones own thoughts and feelings.

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07 Aug 2012 03:27 #69488 by
I'll be honest with you, seanching. I am all furied out. That may come as some surprise to those that know me and/or follow my public FB postings. I write about a lot of contentious stuff: gay rights, campaign finance reform, religion, war, etc. I write about it, but its always with a sense of...if not humor, then fatalism, inconsequence. I mean, ultimately, we are all shadows and dust adrift on a little blue orb around a dying star. All we know, all we have seen, all we have done fades to inconsequence over time.

'On a long enough timeline, we are all dead.' Keynes

So in conclusion, yeah, that sucks. But so does any one of the thousands of other terrible things I have seen over the course of my life. And its not that I don't care. But I simply cannot care about it ALL without going crazier. And I cannot allow that to happen.

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07 Aug 2012 03:52 #69490 by
It's really not that surprising or uncommon. Humans as a species tend to be a bit violent. Pretty girls included. As for this instance I wonder how much is written in. I'm sure if the girls had apologized and cried right away the show would not have been as interesting and Dr. Phil wouldn't have had to work his magic. (Though, I do have to say I haven't seen the show)

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07 Aug 2012 04:07 #69493 by ren

What really surprised me, however, was that all these girls (the attackers) were very pretty girls.


You've been watching too much Fox I think.

(supposedly) smart girls could have become hardened criminals.


OK allow me to say this: posting evidence of your crime on youtube = HIGHLY RETARDED

Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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07 Aug 2012 04:15 #69494 by

ren wrote: OK allow me to say this: posting evidence of your crime on youtube = HIGHLY RETARDED


Hehehe that made me laugh.

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07 Aug 2012 04:52 #69498 by

ren wrote:

What really surprised me, however, was that all these girls (the attackers) were very pretty girls.


You've been watching too much Fox I think.

Sean thinks: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Spot on, Ren. I actually agree with that put down. Good job...

(supposedly) smart girls could have become hardened criminals.


OK allow me to say this: posting evidence of your crime on youtube = HIGHLY RETARDED


Sean replies: I completely agree with you on that. They basically testified against themselves by doing that. I mean it's just as stupid as robbing a general store and then leaving your picture ID on the counter so that the police can reliably track you down and book you - which DID happen, by the way...

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07 Aug 2012 10:52 #69509 by Jestor
When I was of similar age, there were a couple of girls down the block....

One my age, and her sister, a year or two younger...

They, plus one or two other girls lured another girl to their house, after school, and tourtured her...

She was made to do things, and had things done to her, that made this beatdown seem trivial, by comparison..

One of the results is she lost the option to have children... I can't speak of the emotional trauma, or any other physical issues, cause we just don't discuss those type things...

The victim and i were, and still are friends.... She was/is still nice and polite, I'm friends with her younger brother too...

Animals.... Thinking animals....

When we are born, we are 100% animal.... As we age, we aspire to the more devine, more heavenly... Paraphrasing the intro to Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, "We are bodies of animals, with the minds of gods"...

All of our bad qualities, can be compared to some animal somewhere, only our thoughts and intelligence are ours.... (lessor forms exist yes, but I am comparing black/white, not subtle shades of grey)

These are animals wanting to feel power over another, relish in it...

I'm not judging, I've committed my atrocities... I will answer for them...

Don't judge me for who I was, and what I've done.... Instead know me for who I am now...

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07 Aug 2012 12:13 #69517 by
I once knew a guy who didn't have any friends, one day a guy from a gang of bullies asked him if he wanted to hangout, the guy was over joyed at the thought someone wanted to be his friend, so he did, when they walked home, they went down an alleyway, the gang of bullies then savagely beat the kid, he was left bleeding and bruised, broken ribs and everything. He had to crawl all the way to his Grandmothers house in order to get aid, she wasn't in, so he laid in the garden bleeding & Wheezing, it started to rain and he was left out in the cold crying, bloodied and beaten.

He was only 13 at the time, he ended up in hospital for a week after that he didn't go back to school for a very long time and he refused to make a statement to the police, during his time spent at home recuperating he made friends with a guy online, he became the guys friend, he'd listen to him when he was feeling down, he'd play games with him online all the time, one day the guy from online (lets call him Tom for all intensive purposes & the kid, lets call him Luke), Tom asked him if he'd like to meet up and hang out in person, now Luke thought this guy was his age and he'd found a friend too.

So Luke placed trust in Tom, he went round to Toms house, except Tom wasn't 13, he was 33, Tom savagely raped and beat Luke, it brought back very bad memories, then Tom dumped Luke's beaten and unconscious body out in the woods. Luke was found by a dog walker, yet again put in hospital, this time for two weeks, Luke became very very depressed, he didn't go to the police about Tom either, after that Luke went back to school but he struggled to be around any type of person, he just spent a lot of time alone, thinking, learning.

He became very twisted and sick, for two years solid he turned into something dark, something unnatural, one day he was walking home and one of the bullies from before was laying on the ground having fallen over and hurt themselves quite badly, Luke walked up to him and helped him get up, he even helped him get all the way home.

Luke became very animalistic, he regressed into a beast, whenever someone was being violent he'd step in and start a fight whenever he could, he never struck a woman, a child or an elderly person.

He became very sadistic too, he used to enjoy causing people pain, soon he attracted the attention of a girl, whom he fell in love with, she was kind, caring and made him want to be good and do good, she taught him right from wrong, they spent a while together, she was two years older than him which was nice, he enjoyed it.

She died when he was 17, in a car accident, whilst pregnant with his child, this killed him inside, completely ruined him, the best part was, the driver of the car that hit her car was one of the old bullies who was drunk and high on drugs at the time, he took everything he had learned from her, he remained nice, calm, kind and gentle but like a coin, he had two sides, a very angry depressed side that'd come out sometimes, he was fractured, broken and damaged. But eventually he took time, healed (Time is a great healer) and became a good person whom wants to help, care for and make others lives better.

Morale of the story; No matter how much crap lifes throws at you, stay strong.

Once someone told me something that's very true, Success is getting up more times than you've fallen over.

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07 Aug 2012 13:43 #69527 by Lycaenion
thank you Mistah J tthank you!thats exactly it....
People seem to think that compassion and kindness are in all human beings...sadly it is not.
Watching my sister the other day kill ants...not a crime im sure alot of people have done that when they were little...i was not one lol i love all animals and insects...i was a little weird...

I asked here why she was killing them she replied "im bored"
I tried to apeal to her compassion"they have familys to feed"
she replies" they are just bugs"

my sister is a very pretty little girl.she has lacked for nothing.She never asks please and everything needs to be done exactly the way she wants it....She use to tell my mom i hit her all the time,mom evetnualy found out that my sister just liked to see her hit me.

shes not a bad little girl she just has not had the opertuniies to be shaped into a compassionate human being.I had many.

that is how people do the thinks they do.they never learn compassion kindness never realize that others feel as much as them.,that they feel pain just like them.they are detached.

Dont hate them,pitty them...

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