Opening the Gates
08 Aug 2012 21:19 #69724
by ren
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
Replied by ren on topic Re: Opening the Gates
He is being forced to listen to things he doesn't want to listen to. I don't think it's such a crim for him to express his opinion about it. (Arguably, that's another of his rights)But just becouse you feel that you have been violated doesnt give you the right to violate others.
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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08 Aug 2012 21:56 #69728
by Jestor
So to jump wildly to another extreme....
So then, the one who is raped is justified in the raping of another?
I think that was a comparison jump of yours earlier on....
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Jedi ain't Saints....
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Replied by Jestor on topic Re: Opening the Gates
ren wrote:
He is being forced to listen to things he doesn't want to listen to. I don't think it's such a crim for him to express his opinion about it. (Arguably, that's another of his rights)But just becouse you feel that you have been violated doesnt give you the right to violate others.
So to jump wildly to another extreme....
So then, the one who is raped is justified in the raping of another?
I think that was a comparison jump of yours earlier on....

On walk-about...
Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....
"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching
Rite: PureLand
Former Memeber of the TOTJO Council
Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter
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09 Aug 2012 17:31 #69796
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Thank you Master Jestor for understanding my point of view.
I would be perfectly ok with him expressing his opinions about the religion or the preachers topic so long as the intention is to create understanding, not to insult or to create disturbance. And the opinion should be expressed to the one forcing him to be there, as it is he who needs to understand.
If he wants to express his opinion about being forced to be there, then of course thats his right. But preferably without creating disturbance for those who might want to be there.
I dont mean to blame (who i think was a young boy) to hard. Sometimes when we feel powerless to change a situation that we dont like, we get angry or frustrated and want to act out.
And the opinions expressed here are my own and is what, why or how i hope i would act. Because at this distance from the situation it seems like a reasonable way to act.
ren wrote: He is being forced to listen to things he doesn't want to listen to. I don't think it's such a crim for him to express his opinion about it. (Arguably, that's another of his rights)
I would be perfectly ok with him expressing his opinions about the religion or the preachers topic so long as the intention is to create understanding, not to insult or to create disturbance. And the opinion should be expressed to the one forcing him to be there, as it is he who needs to understand.
If he wants to express his opinion about being forced to be there, then of course thats his right. But preferably without creating disturbance for those who might want to be there.
I dont mean to blame (who i think was a young boy) to hard. Sometimes when we feel powerless to change a situation that we dont like, we get angry or frustrated and want to act out.
And the opinions expressed here are my own and is what, why or how i hope i would act. Because at this distance from the situation it seems like a reasonable way to act.
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09 Aug 2012 17:54 #69798
by Jestor
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Jedi ain't Saints....
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Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
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Replied by Jestor on topic Re: Opening the Gates
They can imprison my body, but not my mind...
Call it church, political rally, my wife yelling at me....
It dont matter...
I have quite an interesting place in my head...
He should be quite... He sounds like someone who is trying to convince others, when he himself isnt sure...
Speak your peace loudly, and suffer the slings and arrows of your actions!....
lol... They would have removed him, and he could deal with new surroundings...

Call it church, political rally, my wife yelling at me....
It dont matter...
I have quite an interesting place in my head...
He should be quite... He sounds like someone who is trying to convince others, when he himself isnt sure...
Speak your peace loudly, and suffer the slings and arrows of your actions!....
lol... They would have removed him, and he could deal with new surroundings...
On walk-about...
Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....
"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching
Rite: PureLand
Former Memeber of the TOTJO Council
Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter
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