Magnetic Pole Reversals

I was just watching this interesting 2003 video on one of the fundamental forces of nature, and I noticed an interesting thing at about the 21 minute mark. They were talking about measuring the strength of the Earth's magnetic field over human history as evidenced by clay pots, there is a distinct peak at around the time of Christ's birth!! It's made me really wonder whether such a peak in natural forces could have played a role in any sort of peak of human spiritual experience. I dont mean to say other religious icons are lesser, its just the curve seems to peak right on the birth of Jesus! Bizarre.

Whilst I dont think increased magneticism alone is going to open a doorway to the spirit world, I thought it interesting to wonder if increased global magnetism might act with other forces known or unknown to do that very perhaps that very thing!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGKKzsRjJ_Y

Its also interesting near the end where they talk about how exposed the planet is during a global magnetic field reversal. Since it appears the field is speeding up its movement towards destabilization prior to reversal already, maybe it might have something to do with some of the indicators science are seeing about climate change... and maybe we all will need robes with hoods that have electromagnetic shielding in it!!

To draw my bowstring even further, if peak in global magnetic field stability and strength was to allow greater access to the spiritual for physical creatures, then would the fields instability and weakness do the oppossite and see a fall of humankind!?

Sorry for being so doomsday :lol: :silly: :blink:

There is a newer video on the topic apparantly but I'm unable to view it in my country;

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/natureofthings/video.html?ID=1678474875

Unlikely. People weren't more spiritual around christ's birth. Christ himself became popular long after his death.

ren wrote: Unlikely. People weren't more spiritual around christ's birth. Christ himself became popular long after his death.

The physical incarnation of the offspring for the only God is a pretty high level spiritual event - if you believe in it of course. Perhaps its extends the metaphorical depth into new science... with Noah's floods being representative of the rapid rise in magnetism 'flooding' the planet. I guess its just a coincidence but it can shed a new avenue of reflection for those relevant scriptures.

The physical incarnation of the offspring for the only God is a pretty high level spiritual event - if you believe in it of course.

For whom? His mother and three kings? That'snot an awful lot of people.

ren wrote:

The physical incarnation of the offspring for the only God is a pretty high level spiritual event - if you believe in it of course.

For whom? His mother and three kings? That'snot an awful lot of people.

So you define spirituality as the experience of being present for someones birth!? Its the only way I could parse meaning into your statement.... to answer your 'for whom', assuming Christian belief, for everyone and everything of course!!

Just look at the levels of global magnetism, it must be true

Electromagnetism has nothing to do with spirituality

It isn't a coincidence either though, it actually shows the great rise to power of Wang Mang ruler of the Xin Dynasty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xin_Dynasty

Long may he live!!!

Also magnetism is actually just gravity and anti-gravity particles:





Often people look for connections AFTER events have happened

We don't form scientific hypotheses by looking at the past...

We look for theories that make PREDICTIONS about the future

You can find reasoning for any event after it has happened...

But if what you say is right (about spirituality being greater with electromagnetism) then make a PREDICTION and we'll see if it holds true

That is how real science is done.

Adder wrote:

ren wrote:

The physical incarnation of the offspring for the only God is a pretty high level spiritual event - if you believe in it of course.

For whom? His mother and three kings? That'snot an awful lot of people.

So you define spirituality as the experience of being present for someones birth!? Its the only way I could parse meaning into your statement.... to answer your 'for whom', assuming Christian belief, for everyone and everything of course!!

Just look at the levels of global magnetism, it must be true

On the contrary. In my opinion, the birth of Jesus christ was a non-event, and does not qualify as a pretty high spiritual event... probably not even for both his parents.I wonder what Joseph thought of his "virgin" wife...

And to echoe Akkarin's statements, Around the time jesus was born, christians didn't exist... So let's be honest here, at the time, people didn't give a shit about it. Hardly spiritual imho.


However, you make a point regarding the connection between magnetic field and christianity. For some reason, now that the magnetic field is lower, and as such, radiation is higher, people seem to care a great deal about what one guy did 2000 years ago...

ren wrote: I wonder what Joseph thought of his "virgin" wife...

I assumed that is why you left him out of the initial people you listed.

ren wrote: And to echoe Akkarin's statements, Around the time jesus was born, christians didn't exist... So let's be honest here, at the time, people didn't give a shit about it. Hardly spiritual imho.

I think its established there is a metaphysical usage of the word spirituality and a non-metaphysical usage of the word spirituality. I think its clear I was using the metaphysical one by mentioning things such as 'doorway to the spirit world', and it seems you are using the non-metaphysical usage of personal individual experience soooo, yea your right no buzz for the people at 0 BC - but not what I was saying. In the metaphysical usage, if such a thing were true, it would rate as one of the highest possible metaphysical spiritual events (as I've said repeatidly, if you believe in it).

Akkarin wrote: Electromagnetism has nothing to do with spirituality

I'd disagree on the non-metaphysical usage of spirituality, because we have iron in our blood so I wouldn't be so quick to rule out therapeutic usage of magnets and electromagnetism. For the metaphysical usage of the word spirituality, we do not know, and that is why I posted it because if some members were Christian they might have found it interesting and looked further into it.

Akkarin wrote: It isn't a coincidence either though, it actually shows the great rise to power of Wang Mang ruler of the Xin Dynasty

The reason I connected metaphysical spirituality with a claimed high level religious event, is that it is one of the four fundamental forces of nature. That has importance looking for a deeper structure of the Force, at least for me. Therefore, I'm not sure if the Wang Mang is the key figure of the largest religion in the world, or even if he lays claim to metaphysical spiritual importance - but that might not matter either as if the idea had validity about a global magnet strength increasing metaphysical spirituality wouldn't have to be limited to one person anyway probably!!!

Akkarin wrote: Also magnetism is actually just gravity and anti-gravity particles;

Anti-gravity particles? Do you mean anti-matter exerting an anti-gravity force?

Maybe you got matter and magnet confused? Gravity is directly related to matter, but I dont think science has found what causes gravity yet. I think a non-magnetic piece of matter in space will still have gravity. I'm no scientist but its generally accepted there are 4 fundamental forces to nature;

a. Gravity
b. Electro-Magnetism
c. Strong
d. Weak

Akkarin wrote: Often people look for connections AFTER events have happened

We don't form scientific hypotheses by looking at the past...

We look for theories that make PREDICTIONS about the future

You can find reasoning for any event after it has happened...

But if what you say is right (about spirituality being greater with electromagnetism) then make a PREDICTION and we'll see if it holds true

That is how real science is done.

I wasnt making a scientific hypothesis, and I disagree with that simply becuase the past can lead people to make false connections that it contains no new secrets.

I clearly tried to qualify my posts as 'if you believe in it', which was my obviously inadequate attempt at pointing out my argument wasn't about any factual basis to Christianity or what I was thinking/posting about. I was thinking I should have posted this in the Abrahamic forum to avoid atheist flashback, but it really wasnt my point so....

....I tend to post videos I find interesting and then add words to point out interesting thoughts. Like my last video a week ago, I find these videos useful for understanding the living force around us through visualisation, but I'm a bit of a science nut in the same way as a religious nut ie; I find it interesting.

I think the peak in magnetism was more related to the wobble of the earth's rotation range at that time, in which the earth was entering a certain phase of position.