So tell me, what does this number mean to you?

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26 Jul 2007 18:00 #4730 by
I would like to ask everyone, what this number means to them, think long and hard on it please..........3644

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26 Jul 2007 18:12 #4732 by
Can we get a clue?

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26 Jul 2007 18:24 #4733 by
That is the number of US Soldiers killed in Iraq, as of today

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26 Jul 2007 18:31 #4734 by
Br. Shaun FDC wrote:

That is the number of US Soldiers killed in Iraq, as of today

Then i have to say that number is valor, courage, honor, dedication, sacrafice, and Passion.

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18 Jul 2019 13:57 #340474 by
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19 Jul 2019 03:05 - 19 Jul 2019 03:05 #340494 by void
To me, it means that the ridiculous, late-capitalist set of conditions, complimented by years of conservative propaganda, forced 3,644 people into a war over oil, money, and greed, because that was their best shot at college, learning a trade, or building a life. And that the number who have met their end after coming home due to trauma is almost as important as this one, since we refuse to give proper mental health aid to our vets with PTSD.
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20 Jul 2019 21:44 #340535 by JamesSand
I don't suppose you've got the number of Iraqis killed in Iraq handy?

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21 Jul 2019 03:12 #340544 by ren
Why? Iraqis are dumb. All they had to do was blast easy-e and mobb deep on the radio all day. US citizens kill as many of each other in a few months as iraq did since 2003. (and 3 times as many "kill themselves" according to the cops) They really shouldve known better than to send their kids to school. They could've been gangsta instead of "surgical collateral damage", fattened on triple stack Kings with extra bacon instead of starving on week-old kebabs.

To quote orange-kun, "Sad!".

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21 Jul 2019 11:42 #340548 by void

ren wrote: Why? Iraqis are dumb. All they had to do was blast easy-e and mobb deep on the radio all day. US citizens kill as many of each other in a few months as iraq did since 2003. (and 3 times as many "kill themselves" according to the cops) They really shouldve known better than to send their kids to school. They could've been gangsta instead of "surgical collateral damage", fattened on triple stack Kings with extra bacon instead of starving on week-old kebabs.

To quote orange-kun, "Sad!".


This is literally the most insensitive comment I've read on this website in my entire tenure here, and that's f***ing impressive.

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21 Jul 2019 17:15 #340550 by ren
It was really easy. I took your country's foreign policy and translated it into layman's terms. With a bit of luck Iran will sell its oil wells to ExxonMobil and force its people to eat at McDonald's so no US soldiers will needlessly die there in the near future looking for the Nuclear programme that was started there by the US.

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21 Jul 2019 17:56 #340552 by
Ren, I recognize that your reply was satirical. However, that was not immediately clear. I do not resume to have the right to tell you what to do, but I do caution you against posting things like this that can be misread as your actual opinion.

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22 Jul 2019 06:59 #340562 by ren
The forum is for discussing ideas, not opinions.

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22 Jul 2019 13:34 #340565 by void
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22 Jul 2019 15:21 #340566 by
Ren, we're clearly on the same side of this issue, so I don't know why you want to argue with me. It seems like you just want to disagree with whatever other people say for its own sake, which doesn't produce any useful or meaningful conversation. It's certainly not something I'm interested in participating in.

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24 Jul 2019 01:31 #340603 by ren
I'm not arguing.


Except with steamboat. Opinions are to ideas what a rash is to nettle.

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24 Jul 2019 02:02 #340605 by Adder
That is what makes security so difficult.... amy number is a bad number, but the option of ignoring it tends to lead to a worse number down the road. Another important factor is the reasons of death, which might include a who.

But the scale of the problem only gets bigger the wider it reaches, so foreign affairs is particularly difficult to swallow the sacrifice but also complex with a big temporal footprint. Military is even worse because of the required secrecy in operation strategies and tactics. So People are left to argue the decision making, with whatever narrative seems likely, usually with the benefit of hindsight but rarely with the capacity to consider the range of information shaping the decision.

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