New Member Training Manual

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Thanks for the hard work - i will have a read of it later - remember - if there is anyway you think I can help - just slip me a $50 I mean ask

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It is printing now as I type this

Can't wait to add it to my TOTJO binder

Nice work Owen, New members will certainly benifit from having this info all in one document.

Well structured, informative and as has already been pointed out very manageable in printed form. Maybe an index wouldn`t go a miss, for those looking for something in particular.

It may be late in the game to remark on this, but I don't really care for the Francis of Assisi prayer as part of a Jedi code.

The first part isn't bad, but the part about being pardoned and eternal life, well, that's a bit too Christian-flavored for me. I know, redemption is a universal thing, but the emphasis on it (and on the afterlife) is not a universal thing.

That prayer, the Jedi code, and the lightsaber meditation are all borrowed from somewhere. That's a safe, passive thing to do, but IMO it makes the creed seem weak. Couldn't we come up with something a little more creative?

99% of 'christian' traditions are borrowed (stolen) from other faiths

I understand fully what your saying though.

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Couldn't we come up with something a little more creative?

You're welcome to try. Like many things the Creed is open to interpritation. It's got a 99.997% approval rating so far but if somebody comes up with something better we'd never stand in the way of progress.

I personally don`t see the problem with it. It is universal in its morality in nature and we do believe we become at one with the Force after death. Also if we change it because of the eternal life we also have to change the 16 teachings for example:

\"12. Jedi believe in eternal life. We do not become obsessed in mourning those who pass. Grieve as you will but take heart, for the soul and spirit continue in the netherworld of the Living Force.\"

Then you will have to replace it because if you don`t then our emblem would not be right.

One could argue its a core part of jediism (at lest of the doctrine of THIS temple) - thus essentially - if you cant/wont accept it - you may as well forfwet 9at least in this temple) jediism.

TOTJF use it - Praxeum do - im sure most of the jedi sites do as well.

Its like becoming a christian ans saying you dont agree with the hailk mary or our father or something.

Anyway - as said - your most welcome to have a crack at writing a new one.

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The manual has been out for a little over a month now. I'm curious if any issues have been fount with it. I'd also be interested if any material is not in it that would be good to add to it. If anyone has any thought, feel free to send them my way.

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