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What is the Force MkII
Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:
Adder wrote: The difference then between a Jedi and non-Jedi IMO is that Jedi just don't suppose to fill in the gaps of understanding, but instead presuppose and refine through that same process of data, hypothesis and test that you talk about....
This right here is your basic failing. How can you make a presupposition about something you know nothing about and then enact data processing that only leads you do that conclusion? This is wrong and i don't care if your scientifically minded or not, this is not the way to truly learn anything about reality, subjective or objective.
About what though, are you still thinking I'm talking about measuring objective reality? Because if you stay in your own argument unrelated to mine then you'll be able to defend it from no-one for as long as you like.... but it will remain unrelated to my post. I'm talking about the process of orientating thought within the experience of awareness. It's the same mechanism you mention but connected to the problems of working without having access to the bigger picture - one which we both cannot know because the Force is defined as such but also because our sensors are limited and filtered anyway.
No, I think you are missing my point. I understand you are speaking about subjective reality, i.e. personal experience. This is not a category error on my part. What I am saying is that no matter what it is you are exploring you should not presuppose any attributes about it. Of course we can never know absolute truth, that is a thing we are incapable of seeing because of your example of "limited and filtered sensors". But we can make some basic presuppositions that are not contingent on conclusions of attributes. Namely that reality exists as we perceive it and that we can learn something about that reality. This does not matter whether subjective or objective, both are reality. What the pursuit then becomes is one of discovering objective realities attributes and then aligning our subjective reality as closely to that as possible. This is the process of the pursuit of truth. In either exploration, subjective or objective you cant just decide a conclusion and then work to that conclusion because it bypasses the mechanisms required to accurately decipher your search. That is what I am saying.
But we each might have different takes on what the Force is, so I'm only explaining mine since you asked
Adder wrote: Is that to me Kyrin, as it seems unrelated.... ?
Yes it was. Sorry.