Ethics or Morality: Cheating on Tests

Let me tell you a story. When I was in my education to become a doctor, I had to do an exam in a written form. People around me tried to give me hints how to cheat on this one, they had old exams (the questions and right answers) and told me, the exam questions never change.

I wanted to be honest, I wanted to pass this test not by cheating, but by doing hard work and learning all the stuff that I thought I needed to know. And so I practiced and read and learned ... for three hard weeks, and after that I thought, I was really good on this. I was ready to take any exam.

Then I saw the questions. They had - really - nothing in common with what I had ever read about, they seemed really "off topic". For example, I should do a complicated mathematical task that had to do with a steam engine! - but the item was physiology of the human body? ... I failed the exam

After all the work I had done though, I considered myself worthy to pass the test, so I got the old exams and learned the stubborn questions by hard, that took me half an hour. After that I easily passed the test with no mistakes.

MarVinKra wrote: Hi, Brothers and Sisters!

I have come across a little bit of an ethical issue over the last couple days and it got me thinking about a subject my partner and I have discussed in great detail.
Cheating on tests/assignments.

I would like to know what some the Jedi (and Sith alike) think of this.
It is important to note that there can be many different reasons for cheating on tests or school work such as perhaps, one is failing the class and it is a last resort, or even just they are lazy. In some cases, it takes a genius to be able to cheat on a certain test/assignment but does the intelligence of the action take away from what the person has done?

Would love to know what you all think
Force be with you all

Have I ... yup .
Do I know .?
Nope .
Do I teach not to , I do not say not or to do something to any one any more. Not my cup of tea. I do say by example a character trust worthy is evident when no credit will be given. The question is pretty self explanatory for me in THaT light. One of many ideas lights ways what ever u wanna call em, that's how I make that decision now. Integrity and character . Situation has little influence on both.
Hope this helps a little , may the Force be with you as you seek it!!


Edit ps. It is my focus to "up" my game so to speak, so certain things can be considered tried ... cheating , been there tried it got nothing out of it . It was when I began the mastering idea... no matter the task my focus was to master and pass the ability. When your trying to master and learn something ... yea cheating is kinna a no brainer... why when you can learn it... you know? I find if when I cheat , I don't know , I didn't learn , lm not a fan of NOT learning anymore , been NOT learning a long time , I'll pass ! With all that available ... cheating seems watered down hu? But that's me! Thanks for letting me share with you.

I'm a teacher at a public school. My stance on this is very clear: cheating on a test ist cheating yourself. These tests are progress checks and cheating gives everyone involved a false image of one's progress, which can have grave consequences. It's also taking unnecessary risk (if you're caught you fail the class), it's lying, it's deceit, it's a display of poor work ethics and of immaturity.

The OP mentioned there are various reasons for cheating - that may be true but it's still not ok. If you don't want to take a test, need more time to prepare etc., simply calling in sick and taking a re-test the week later is a much better way. Still involves lying but at least you're not claiming you know something you don't know. The teacher doesn't have to correct your test etc.

Exams are a different matter - if you're not ready for an exam, you're not ready and you shouldn't be allowed to pass. If you cheat there, the consequences are even worse as you may be given an attest of capability which you don't deserve. Just imagine a doctor passing his finals because he managed to cheat masterfully. Would you go to such a doctor as a patient? Same goes for lots of other exams.

Cheating is never ok and especially not for Jedi of the Order.

Oh, if you are referring to me, I used the wrong word here, Cyan Sarden. Sorry, I am from Germany, mixed up the words, my story was not about an "exam", it was just a small test, exams you need to pass to become a doctor are always done person to person, lasting at least one whole day, where you have to show how you examine, treat, etc... they are not done in a written form only, and it is impossible to cheat there.

Cheating just proves you are too stupid to know the material or that you were too lazy to try and learn it

Maybe_the_sith_arent_so_bad wrote: Cheating just proves you are too stupid to know the material or that you were too lazy to try and learn it

Or that you didn't find the material valuable for one reason or another.

Or that you didn't find the material valuable for one reason or another.

This one is tricky - How do you know when you know better?

I mean, I'm going to say it's fairly often. The world is full of dipshits, and living at the whim of dipshits and dipshit organisations on the off chance that they know something you don't is a great way to be a rube.

But how do you know when material is valuable, when there is an opportunity for you to learn something of merit?

JamesSand wrote:

Or that you didn't find the material valuable for one reason or another.

This one is tricky - How do you know when you know better?

I mean, I'm going to say it's fairly often. The world is full of dipshits, and living at the whim of dipshits and dipshit organisations on the off chance that they know something you don't is a great way to be a rube.

But how do you know when material is valuable, when there is an opportunity for you to learn something of merit?

Well, suppose the test is on medieval French history and you really just don't give two s***s about that subject. Now, others might find the information has merit, but maybe you don't care which French king did what.

Personally I think almost everything is worth learning, but not everyone has that attitude. Some people are only interested in practical knowledge and prefer not to fill their heads with things like the exploits of Charlemagne.

@Tobias I was not referring to you - I hadn‘t read your post otherwise I would have chosen a different example. Didn’t mean to offend you in any way!

No! I don´t feel offended, I just thought people should know that you can´t become a doctor in Germany by cheating, I thought in case you need a doctor, when you´re here ...