White vs Brown People

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15 Feb 2017 08:28 #276138 by Whyte Horse
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Is it just me or is the global community turning into some kind of new nazi thing? I see US+Russia+UK vs Mexico+China+EU happening. White nationalists vs brown welfarists. We got walls going up, immigrants on the run, shiny white leaders cozying up to one another. Just sayin, it's looking like we're heading for a white vs brown thing...

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15 Feb 2017 09:27 #276142 by Cyan Sarden
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I certainly don't support the nomenclature, but I also fail to understand your categorization. In how far are China and the EU supposed to be in the 'brown welfarists' category? I believe this is a minefield - I don't see an approach to a discussion like this that doesn't very quickly turn sour. Labeling, misconceptions, you name it. I'll keep the popcorn ready in any case :-)

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15 Feb 2017 12:45 #276149 by Brick
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Yeah, I'm with Cyan Sarden on this.

A. How are China and the EU 'brown welfarists'?

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B. How can you label the entirety of any nation as one 'colour'? Especially countries like the US and UK that have some of the most culturally and racially diverse populations on the planet.

Could you maybe provide a little more information to clarify things as I don't really understand what you're talking about

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15 Feb 2017 12:47 #276150 by Trisskar
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Whyte Horse wrote: shiny white leaders cozying up to one another.


And that's a good example of the problem. Bias.

In all of your examples your "brown" category are poor homeless and helpless people running from their war ridden homes and your "White" Category leading the world in their "Shiny" glory.

For the last 6 years America was ran by a BLACK President. Not a shiny white leader

And there are just as many greedy "Brown" Leaders cozy-ing up in their richly spleandor while there are just as many "White" people living in less than favorable conditions.

I am white. And i am currently living in a home with no heat and a snow storm forcast on the way. Not so shiny and cozy if you ask me ;)


I agree with Cyan. Nothing good can come out of this topic.
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15 Feb 2017 14:04 #276154 by IDK My Name
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I am SO glad no one got baited into this political booby trap.

I'll bite my tongue for now as well.
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15 Feb 2017 16:08 #276184 by Carlos.Martinez3
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If you take away a lot of labels you'll find at the heart ... People vs people. Then at that it's just opinion vs opinion .
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16 Feb 2017 16:13 - 16 Feb 2017 17:16 #276307 by OB1Shinobi
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if you dont want a "white vs brown thing" then dont promote one

dont frame the discussion as if its a battle, and we all have to be on one side vs the other

use your voice to promote rational thought, open dialogue, and the idea that we as americans really are in this together, and its in all of our best interest to work together, even though that is difficult at times

be personally dedicated to the idea of cultural unity rather than racial victory
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16 Feb 2017 16:25 - 16 Feb 2017 16:25 #276310 by Manu
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Whyte Horse wrote: Is it just me or...


It's just you. :)

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16 Feb 2017 22:29 #276361 by OB1Shinobi
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Magnus Staar wrote:

Whyte Horse wrote: Is it just me or...


It's just you. :)


man, i wish i could believe this

unfortunately, i see this "white vs brown" thing too, though differently.
i see what appears to be a large and growing movement of people intent on stirring up group vs group enmity across a variety of populations. specifically, im talking about the SJW's, who confuse personal demographic for personal identity, and from there cast judgement on individuals based on the individuals personal demographic

i do also agree with the idea that there are powerful economic conglomerates at work in the world that are highly exploitative, particularly of the poor, and that many (though not all by any means) of the individuals who direct those organizations fall into the racial category of "white"

but it isnt "white vs brown" and those who frame it that way only make the problems worse
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17 Feb 2017 03:41 #276374 by Whyte Horse
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Cyan Sarden wrote: I certainly don't support the nomenclature, but I also fail to understand your categorization. In how far are China and the EU supposed to be in the 'brown welfarists' category? I believe this is a minefield - I don't see an approach to a discussion like this that doesn't very quickly turn sour. Labeling, misconceptions, you name it. I'll keep the popcorn ready in any case :-)

Yeah I really didn't want to go there but it's the here and now for the the mainstream. We might as well just stop being in denial and accept the reality, even if we don't like it. I'm not expressing my opinion here, just discussing what I see taking shape.

I think the EU has plenty of nationalists emerging and even had a nation exit the union, with several others threatening the same. Plenty of parties calling for similar trump agendas and some outright racist leaders.

Perhaps white and brown isn't the right terminology, but what is? We just went through hell in the US under Obama with police killing black people.

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