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19 Dec 2016 21:16 #268986 by
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I like that too, people who truly want this will search for this on their own initiative, however it would be nice to meet someone face to face upon introduction.

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19 Dec 2016 21:17 #268987 by Leah Starspectre
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PeaceLord wrote: I like that too, people who truly want this will search for this on their own initiative, however it would be nice to meet someone face to face upon introduction.


Exactly. More like ambassadors than missionaries :)

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19 Dec 2016 21:21 #268989 by
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Goken wrote: I can say that I would be against most forms of "recruitment." One of the things I love about Jediism is that it doesn't try to recruit or convert people.


Define "recruitment."

I'm thinking open meetings. More like: "if you're interested, come in and we can talk". Making Jediism more accessible and putting a human face into the community.


I would be more okay with this. It's still not high on my priority list for what Jediism should be worried about, but as long as we're not yelling on street corners, knocking on doors, or sticking leaflets in windshield wipers I'm ok.

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19 Dec 2016 21:23 #268990 by Leah Starspectre
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Goken wrote: I would be more okay with this. It's still not high on my priority list for what Jediism should be worried about, but as long as we're not yelling on street corners, knocking on doors, or sticking leaflets in windshield wipers I'm ok.


LOL!!! Agreed!

But if we're talking about charity and "advancing religion" perhaps this a way of doing that. It would need to be discussed properly by the Council/Clergy if we wanted to make something like that part of the doctrine or duties of Knights or anything like that.

We're just brainstorming after all :)

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19 Dec 2016 21:39 - 19 Dec 2016 21:41 #268993 by Ben
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An example of something that seemed to me to work well was the library talk (with a Q&A, I think?) that Cabur recently gave. Not aimed at recruitment, just at providing a perspective for people to consider if they happen to be interested.

But, I also wouldn't want to assume that everyone (or every Knight) would want to do such things - I'm not sure that I would, at this point in time. Maybe further down the line...


Sue wrote: It would seem more you advance education rather than religion though.
You provide a training program that seems designed to open people to new perspectives, to connections within all religions, all peoples.

Sue wrote: it seems even the members you gave dont all see this as a religion which makes this idea rather confusing.


It probably depends on whether one finds the Force to be one of those connections. For many of us the Force is what we are examining when we are looking at those common threads, and that is what arguably makes it a religious path. But there is certainly latitude to see it as simply an educational experience - but that could be said of all religions. For instance, I attend the local Buddhist centre on a weekly basis - but, whilst I take a lot of interesting ideas and experiences away from it, and in some ways I could be said to be a Buddhist because I try to live my life in accordance with those ideas, I don't believe in the more religious aspects of the Buddhist path. Does my presence there, and the presence of others with a similar mindset, prevent the Buddhist path from being a religious one for those who do believe? :)

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19 Dec 2016 21:40 #268995 by
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I would die and denounce my Jedi roots if they ever started going door to door. :sick:

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19 Dec 2016 21:44 #268996 by Leah Starspectre
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V-Tog wrote: An example of something that seemed to me to work well was the library talk (with a Q&A, I think?) that Cabur recently gave. Not aimed at recruitment, just at providing a perspective for people to consider if they happen to be interested.

But, I also wouldn't want to assume that everyone (or every Knight) would want to do such things - I'm not sure that I would, at this point in time. Maybe further down the line...


Yes, that's what I was thinking, but on a smaller scale! And yeah, not all Knights maybe, but Knights in a given region could confer and decide who (if any) would fill this role. Or a Knight more or less alone in a region could choose to rep in his/her own community as desired.
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19 Dec 2016 21:49 #268998 by
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I see your point V-Tog

But if you did have knights doing face to face meetings wouldnt you have to have a overall agreed view of what this is, religious, education, charity,

And it would seem more gaining members (recruitment) than anything charitable, even if the knight was giving time for free...
Almost cult like :)

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19 Dec 2016 21:54 #269001 by
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Sue wrote: And it would seem more gaining members (recruitment) than anything charitable, even if the knight was giving time for free...
Almost cult like :)


Which is why I would be against any of the even moderately aggressive seeming tactics for this.

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19 Dec 2016 22:04 #269003 by
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The Jedi Gatherings (Non TOTJO Related) Would perform their workshops and Group Practices outside in their shared public locations (Parks/Campground/Cabin) Doing Yoga, Sword, Meditation, Open Lectures ect ect....By doing this, we often got outside people coming and taking part of what we do, asking questions and curiously watching.

Some Chapters (Non TOTJO) Go to Cons and have a table with hand outs

Some put up Business Cards on bulletin boards in stores

Thats about the extent of "Outside Recruitment" that id be willing to accept. No harm in people coming to us as it is what people do anyways here on the internet.

How did you find TOTJO? My guess is some outside influence ;)

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