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21 Oct 2016 15:49 - 21 Oct 2016 16:19 #262169 by OB1Shinobi

Alethea Thompson wrote: On the topic of Bernie Sanders-

Anyone here watch Project Veritas- who released all 40 hours of tape to at least Fox News who all (save Sean Hannity) vetted it before they reported on it?

Just something to think about. I wasn't a fan of Sander's position, but now that we know it wasn't Sanders' supporters that shut down Chicago, it was a group that was on Hillary's side- I'm pretty upset on behalf of Sanders and his supporters.


i believe that sanders was bullied out of the election by the democratic party, not because he couldnt win but because he could

it was decided that this is hillary's race and so bernie had to go

when it came time to pick, sanders would have been a much more conscionable choice for me than either trump or hillary, and im sure that i am not the only one to feel that way

i only have one voice and i have to use it to say what i really believe, so im still going to vote bernie because i think i would be wasting my voice if i use it to support something i dont agree with

People are complicated.
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21 Oct 2016 17:10 - 21 Oct 2016 17:15 #262180 by TheDude

Alan wrote: I disagree with The Dude, who presumes to assert, "I don't think anyone would disagree with me when I say that Hillary Clinton is a criminal."

Election results are tabulated locally and so it would be nearly impossible to rig enough precincts to influence the outcome of the election.

The entire argument defies logic as the election has not yet been held and so there is no evidence of rigging. Where is the evidence? None of the proffered insinuations of rigging constitute evidence.


Well, given that she flat-out lied to the FBI, which is a felony in the United States, she's by definition a criminal. I'm not sure how anyone would deny such a thing, an examination of our laws and details from her investigation make it blatantly clear that this is the case.

In terms of voter fraud and rigging elections, one doesn't have to literally go to ballot boxes and replace votes. For one thing, we know for a FACT from the Wikileaks that the Clinton campaign and the DNC conspired to eliminate the candidacy of Bernie Sanders in the primary. This is not a point of contention. Warren stepped down from her position because of those leaks. Politicians don't do that if the leaked information is illegitimate.

I don't want to tell anyone here who to vote for. But please look into the leaks, all of them as they pertain to all candidates regardless of who you support, and investigate each candidate thoroughly before voting.

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I would like to call attention to the following video, where a computer programmer admits to working on a program for a politician to secretly rig elections. This was his statement under oath in court.
"It would flip the vote 51/49. Whoever you wanted it to go to and whichever race you wanted to win."
"And would that program that you designed be something that elections officials... could detect?"
"They'd never see it."
"Could you answer that question once again?"
"They would never see it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1thcO_olHas

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21 Oct 2016 18:30 #262198 by TheDude
Wasserman Schultz, not Warren.Sorry lol.

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21 Oct 2016 19:52 - 21 Oct 2016 20:12 #262213 by
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Not so much that its rigged, but that its manufactured, and our piddly vote doesnt count as much as billions in political donations. My attorney sent me a link to a BBC doc today called ' HyperNormalization ' on this topic, by Adam Curtis.

The description reads: "HyperNormalisation wades through the culmination of forces that have driven this culture into mass uncertainty, confusion, spectacle and simulation. Where events keep happening that seem crazy, inexplicable and out of control—from Donald Trump to Brexit, to the War in Syria, mass immigration, extreme disparity in wealth, and increasing bomb attacks in the West—this film shows a basis to not only why these chaotic events are happening, but also why we, as well as those in power, may not understand them. We have retreated into a simplified, and often completely fake version of the world. And because it is reflected all around us, ubiquitous, we accept it as normal. This epic narrative of how we got here spans over 40 years, with an extraordinary cast of characters—the Assad dynasty, Donald Trump, Henry Kissinger, Patti Smith, early performance artists in New York, President Putin, Japanese gangsters, suicide bombers, Colonel Gaddafi and the Internet. HyperNormalisation weaves these historical narratives back together to show how today’s fake and hollow world was created and is sustained. This shows that a new kind of resistance must be imagined and actioned, as well as an unprecedented reawakening in a time where it matters like never before."

I have not finished watching it yet, but he highly reccommends it and I pay him well for his excellent judgment. So it is probably pretty good. Please let me know what yall think if you watch it.

EDIT: and to further the point, it just saddens me that these two are who we get to vote for for president. Seriously? This is the best that America has to offer to lead the free world? I don't believe that. I would rather vote for any one of you probably than either of the two clowns running.
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21 Oct 2016 21:06 #262222 by ren
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Desolous wrote: Not so much that its rigged, but that its manufactured, and our piddly vote doesnt count as much as billions in political donations. My attorney sent me a link to a BBC doc today called ' HyperNormalization ' on this topic, by Adam Curtis.

The description reads: "HyperNormalisation wades through the culmination of forces that have driven this culture into mass uncertainty, confusion, spectacle and simulation. Where events keep happening that seem crazy, inexplicable and out of control—from Donald Trump to Brexit, to the War in Syria, mass immigration, extreme disparity in wealth, and increasing bomb attacks in the West—this film shows a basis to not only why these chaotic events are happening, but also why we, as well as those in power, may not understand them. We have retreated into a simplified, and often completely fake version of the world. And because it is reflected all around us, ubiquitous, we accept it as normal. This epic narrative of how we got here spans over 40 years, with an extraordinary cast of characters—the Assad dynasty, Donald Trump, Henry Kissinger, Patti Smith, early performance artists in New York, President Putin, Japanese gangsters, suicide bombers, Colonel Gaddafi and the Internet. HyperNormalisation weaves these historical narratives back together to show how today’s fake and hollow world was created and is sustained. This shows that a new kind of resistance must be imagined and actioned, as well as an unprecedented reawakening in a time where it matters like never before."

I have not finished watching it yet, but he highly reccommends it and I pay him well for his excellent judgment. So it is probably pretty good. Please let me know what yall think if you watch it.

EDIT: and to further the point, it just saddens me that these two are who we get to vote for for president. Seriously? This is the best that America has to offer to lead the free world? I don't believe that. I would rather vote for any one of you probably than either of the two clowns running.


Lol desolous do you see what you did there? you put "america leads the free world" and complained about the state of things in the same post. There is no free world, and america can't even lead itself.

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21 Oct 2016 21:23 #262225 by
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It's a turn of phrase, ren. I have this far been in about 28 different countries. I know we arent all that anymore . But I am very entitled to the opinion.

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23 Oct 2016 07:31 #262366 by ren
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Desolous wrote: It's a turn of phrase, ren. I have this far been in about 28 different countries. I know we arent all that anymore . But I am very entitled to the opinion.


Wait, you actually want this hypernormalisation?

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23 Oct 2016 18:48 #262416 by
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Hell no. Did you not watch it yet?

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24 Oct 2016 04:55 #262443 by ren
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Didn't finish it, it's kind of old news to me.

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