Proof This Election is Rigged
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Elections are run independently at the local level, by local citizens, under the supervision of both parties.
It's rigged alright.
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I don't think anyone would disagree with me when I say that Hillary Clinton is a criminal. She's lied to the FBI, which to my knowledge is a felony. There's news about foreign leaders helping to fund her campaign -- such as Saudi Arabia. In Clinton's latest email leak it was revealed that she has full knowledge of Saudi Arabia funding ISIS/ISIL, yet she still accepted a ridiculous amount of money from their leadership as if funding ISIS isn't a big deal at all. It makes me wonder what kind of political favors other ISIS-supporting nations can buy from her. Voter fraud and rigging elections seems like a natural step for her to take. She has no fear of repercussions, and why would she? She's gotten away with everything she's done in the past.
I am by no means a Republican, but as a matter of moral obligation to prevent someone who is arguably the most corrupt individual politician in the history of this nation from gaining the presidency, I think I may have to vote Republican. That is, assuming that my vote will be counted and that the votes of individual citizens matter at all. In the Democratic primary they sure didn't. Why should I expect this election to be any less rigged? And for what real reason at this point do any of us think our votes matter at all? If we live in a system where votes go uncounted and the media at large overwhelmingly supports one candidate, there doesn't appear to be much reason to vote at all.
In addition, third party candidates have absolutely no chance of winning any major election. Jill or Gary might be overall better choices than Hillary or Donald, heck, they might be talking about actual policies without diverting to another topic or lying through their teeth or spouting empty rhetoric. But the way that our system is set up makes it pragmatically impossible for any non-Democrat, non-Republican to become president. Because of certain factors in this "democratic republic" (really a shameless oligarchy if you ask me) and the biases of mainstream news media, even if the will of the people clearly shows that Gary or Jill should win, it won't happen. And that's really a shame.
Yeah, I'd say this election is rigged. Moreover I'd say that the US's entire political system is corrupt and in dire need of reform if we are to survive another few hundred years as a nation. The parallels between modern US and ancient Rome are astonishing and we really might start falling hard, and soon. But that's only my opinion, and I may be right or wrong.
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corporate influence over policy and control of media - "media consolidation" and "usa is oligarchy "
gerrymandering - "stacking cracking and packing"
voter supression - "PBS Unprecedented voter suppression 41 states"
electoral college - "electoral college is bullsht"
those are some of the real issues which cast legitimate doubt over the elections process
none of which were addressed in the article, which i find ...curious
People are complicated.
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TheDude wrote: I'm 99% sure this election is rigged. I've heard talk about uncounted Sanders votes, and the DNC leaks make it blatantly clear that Bernie's loss wasn't entirely legitimate. I think I made a post here a little while back where I mentioned people being unable to vote for Sanders at all in certain areas during the primary. The anti-Trump bias in the debate moderators is clear as day. Clinton is obviously favored by the mass media, and I've seen some reports that certain news organizations have threatened to destroy the careers of journalists who report negatively on Clinton or positively on Trump. If the news media is biased, that affects what the public consumes as a source of information. Journalistic integrity seems to be a thing of the past.
I don't think anyone would disagree with me when I say that Hillary Clinton is a criminal. She's lied to the FBI, which to my knowledge is a felony. There's news about foreign leaders helping to fund her campaign -- such as Saudi Arabia. In Clinton's latest email leak it was revealed that she has full knowledge of Saudi Arabia funding ISIS/ISIL, yet she still accepted a ridiculous amount of money from their leadership as if funding ISIS isn't a big deal at all. It makes me wonder what kind of political favors other ISIS-supporting nations can buy from her. Voter fraud and rigging elections seems like a natural step for her to take. She has no fear of repercussions, and why would she? She's gotten away with everything she's done in the past.
I am by no means a Republican, but as a matter of moral obligation to prevent someone who is arguably the most corrupt individual politician in the history of this nation from gaining the presidency, I think I may have to vote Republican. That is, assuming that my vote will be counted and that the votes of individual citizens matter at all. In the Democratic primary they sure didn't. Why should I expect this election to be any less rigged? And for what real reason at this point do any of us think our votes matter at all? If we live in a system where votes go uncounted and the media at large overwhelmingly supports one candidate, there doesn't appear to be much reason to vote at all.
In addition, third party candidates have absolutely no chance of winning any major election. Jill or Gary might be overall better choices than Hillary or Donald, heck, they might be talking about actual policies without diverting to another topic or lying through their teeth or spouting empty rhetoric. But the way that our system is set up makes it pragmatically impossible for any non-Democrat, non-Republican to become president. Because of certain factors in this "democratic republic" (really a shameless oligarchy if you ask me) and the biases of mainstream news media, even if the will of the people clearly shows that Gary or Jill should win, it won't happen. And that's really a shame.
Yeah, I'd say this election is rigged. Moreover I'd say that the US's entire political system is corrupt and in dire need of reform if we are to survive another few hundred years as a nation. The parallels between modern US and ancient Rome are astonishing and we really might start falling hard, and soon. But that's only my opinion, and I may be right or wrong.
You might like The hideous, diabolical truth about Hillary Clinton at https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/10/14/the-hideous-diabolical-truth-about-hillary-clinton/
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OB1Shinobi wrote: rigged voting machines - if you want to look it up, start with "diebold and gw bush"
corporate influence over policy and control of media - "media consolidation" and "usa is oligarchy "
gerrymandering - "stacking cracking and packing"
voter supression - "PBS Unprecedented voter suppression 41 states"
electoral college - "electoral college is bullsht"
those are some of the real issues which cast legitimate doubt over the elections process
none of which were addressed in the article, which i find ...curious
All of these issues deserve a topic. Both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of gerrymandering but only one party is in the voter suppression racket.
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at this point i believe that lack of integrity is systemic
people on both sides tolerate those who dont play fair within their own camp
seeing that the other side uses dirty tactics makes people willing to use, or at least turn a blind eye to dirty tactics themselves - at this point everyone is dirty and everyone blames everyone else for the dirt and no one wants to be the first to clean up
because if youre competing against a cheater it seems guaranteed to result in losing if you dont cheat yourself
it also seems way too much a risk to let the dirty corrupt cheaters on the other side win
so we end up with the dirtiest of each side being the ones to set the tone of the whole process
People are complicated.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/05/opinion/republicans-and-voter-suppression.html
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890
https://thinkprogress.org/study-finds-republican-voter-suppression-is-even-more-effective-than-you-think-3b2562ae2f52#.zfltnhio1
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35539-the-gop-is-now-bragging-about-voter-suppression
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/28/republicans-admit-voter-id-laws-are-aimed-at-democratic-voters.html
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