Unquestioned Beliefs

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20 Sep 2016 00:27 #257672 by Leah Starspectre
I was in a workshop today about talking to and motivating people with disability mindset (I'm a claims examiner for disability insurance), and the lecturer used this quote:

"Once we have a belief, we don't have to think about it anymore."

Do you have the habit of holding on to unquestioned beliefs?
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20 Sep 2016 00:46 #257675 by
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Do you have the habit of holding on to unquestioned beliefs?


I think these are the ones that are held onto.

I am sure I have some.

I try to keep people around me who would not allow that.

I also try to make sure I dont, but again, im sure they exist.

I will have to wait until they are questioned.

I dont have "beliefs" though, more conclusions I have come too given what I know so far, and I try to keep and open mind to new evidence, or experience.

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20 Sep 2016 01:19 #257676 by
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Leah Starspectre wrote:
Do you have the habit of holding on to unquestioned beliefs?


I would like to think I don't, but a careful examination is in order before I can say with any certainty. Even then I could be fooling myself. The mind is a tricky place, especially when it comes to closely held beliefs. I can say though that I don't like to take things at face value. While I think some things go beyond our ability to answer adequately, its the journey that matters, not the destination.

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20 Sep 2016 01:46 - 20 Sep 2016 01:46 #257682 by Adder
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Leah Starspectre wrote: I was in a workshop today about talking to and motivating people with disability mindset (I'm a claims examiner for disability insurance), and the lecturer used this quote:

"Once we have a belief, we don't have to think about it anymore."

Do you have the habit of holding on to unquestioned beliefs?


I think the quote is accurate in regards to that is how beliefs are used to define ones worldview, and proportion focus onto the variety of unknowns that need to be actively monitored in more detail. But of course not having to think about it anymore is different from never thinking about it again!!

I guess the ones we use the most and which are not challenged are the ones which we don't bother questioning. I think its a good idea to take stock of our authenticity to apparent reality as much as possible, but not be afraid of using belief as a tool so long it does not disrupt the flow of the Force lol, or rather interfere with our capacity to relate with accuracy beyond our self desires.

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20 Sep 2016 08:41 #257711 by
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Leah Starspectre wrote: Do you have the habit of holding on to unquestioned beliefs?


I don't know anyone who doesn't. College was transformational in the sense that it brought to my attention a lot of assumed truths that turned out be beliefs with very little, if not nothing to hold them up. Unfortunately, assumed truths or unquestioned beliefs are part of the human experience and being exposed to a handful or even (as was my case) dozens, it doesn't mean they all just magically disappear. What's worse is that even when exposed to unquestioned beliefs, it doesn't mean that a person will change their view .

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20 Sep 2016 09:16 #257714 by JamesSand
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To paraphrase someone else

- "I don't believe in gravity, but gravity believes in me"

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20 Sep 2016 15:23 #257745 by
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The tricky part is identifying these unquestioned beliefs. Often I don't realize I have them until they are questioned by someone else. Until that question comes, I might never even consider what I really believe.

I often think of the movies "Truman Show" or "The Matrix". What if everything we believe is actually being manufactured from outside and we are just too stuck in our beliefs to notice? :blink:

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20 Sep 2016 15:56 #257751 by
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Of course, I need them to be but I hope they evolve and adapt over time!

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20 Sep 2016 18:54 - 20 Sep 2016 19:16 #257766 by OB1Shinobi
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there is an NLP presupposition which states " The person with the most flexibility controls the system "

"Rigid attitude or thinking reduces the desired outcome in our interaction with other people"

well, ideas (and the way we hold on to our ideas) are/is similar

the more ideas that you can successfully integrate into your world view, the more adaptable that view will be

just because a certain thing that you believe is true, doesnt mean that it is universally true, or that its opposite is necessarily false

one meaning of "mental adaptability" is being able to acknowledge and reconcile contradictory and paradoxical truths

yes, the police are good
yes, the police kill people that they shouldnt kill

they are both true
the question is "which idea is more useful?"

and the answer to that is "it depends on the project youre working on, and the outcome you want to achieve"

ideas and beliefs are like tools
situations and circumstances are like work shops
desired outcomes are the specific craft projects we want to build

some ideas are really useful over a broad range of circumstances (like a knife)

some are only useful under very specialized conditions (like a soldering iron)

being able to recognize the projects we are working on is a skill in and of itself - we often think we're doing one thing but really we are being driven by something else

we have to be able to look at the outcome we want to achieve and figure out if we are using the tools which are most appropriate

People are complicated.
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20 Sep 2016 19:03 #257767 by Manu
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Do you have the habit of holding on to unquestioned beliefs?


I probably have a bunch, and I just don't know it. What I love about this place, with various members, each with their unique point of view, I sometimes catch a glimpse of myself as if seen through the eyes of someone else (if that makes sense), and when that happens, I can sometimes identify mental or behavioral patterns that I was completely unaware of before.

The pessimist complains about the wind;
The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
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