If you can't explain it to a 10 year old...

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14 Sep 2016 13:11 #257113 by

Parnerium wrote:

Merin Kyo Den wrote: Some things just need to be understood on a personal level that transcends our ability to phrase it in words.


That's what poetry is for ;)



I think poetry is the next best thing. Some things go beyond our ability to express though words, and I think that's rather a good thing. Ask Brother John about the story of the rose bush sometime, if he remembers it.

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14 Sep 2016 13:19 #257114 by

Trisskar wrote: I am not so sure i agree with the statment/quote. Here is why

While i agree that it is important to remember Simplicity in your methods of relaying information. Some things, I believe...Is not as simple as we would like it.

I can write fan fiction and stories. It comes naturally to me, just something I do as a hobby and I enjoy it alot.

I, however, couldn't explain exactly how one writes a good story to a ten year old in simple words beyond the cop out answer "Just keep practicing."

I can however, explain it with alot of time and many scenario's/examples until at least one of them....maybe....gets through to said 10 year old.

In other words. Experience is a form of knowledge, and no matter how many different ways you "Explain it" you can't replace experience.

You simply cant relay to a ten year old the emotional struggle of holding down a job, paying bills, and figuring out where you are going to get that $60 for that same 10 year old to take Riding Lessons at the local horse barn. That takes Experience to explain that kind of stress and hardship. Not words for a 10 year old to understand. Dosn't mean you, yourself, don't understand it though.

Just my thoughts.

I think we should always remember to keep things simple. But we must not pretend we are dumb or un-intelligent just because we can't relay experience to children or people outside of your own understanding.


This is the second time I've quoted you!

I just had the very experience you describe this morning with my son. He's 7, and really wants a new xbox game he's been playing on gold free play days. Its a $50 game, which depending on when he asks me is not a big deal.He doesn't ask for expensive games very often, but unfortunately for him, its the middle of the month and most of my bills hit around this time. No $50 games for two weeks, sorry kid. He didn't really understand, even though he accepted it gracefully, but I can't fault him. Its beyond his capacity to empathize with me without having the shared experience of his bills hitting in the middle of the month. Yes, he can understand it on an intellectual level, but he'll never really get it until he goes through it. Much of the philosophy that comprises Jediism is like that.

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14 Sep 2016 14:31 #257125 by Loudzoo

Tellahane wrote: So I heard this line earlier today on the radio, it's not a quote of someone famous that I know of but the idea is if you can't explain any given topic/device/item/idea to a 10 year old in a way that they will understand it(and not just what it is but how it works and why you use it), then you don't truly 100% understand it yourself.


It's pretty close to the Einstein attributed quote "If you can't explain something to a six-year-old, you really don't understand it yourself."

Although I've also seen this attributed to Einstein too: "You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother."

According to this (http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/8742/did-einstein-say-if-you-cant-explain-it-simply-you-dont-understand-it-well-en)

if you open page 418 of Einstein: His Life and Times (1972) by Ronald W. Clark, it says that Louis de Broglie did attribute a similar statement to Einstein:

To de Broglie, Einstein revealed an instinctive reason for his inability to accept the purely statistical interpretation of wave mechanics. It was a reason which linked him with Rutherford, who used to state that "it should be possible to explain the laws of physics to a barmaid." Einstein, having a final discussion with de Broglie on the platform of the Gare du Nord in Paris, whence they had traveled from Brussels to attend the Fresnel centenary celebrations, said "that all physical theories, their mathematical expressions apart ought to lend themselves to so simple a description 'that even a child could understand them.' "


There's some good advice here that we could probably all benefit from!! http://www.cambridgenetwork.co.uk/news/if-you-can-t-explain-it-to-a-six-year-old-you-probably-don-t4190/
Warning: Spoiler!


But maybe that's too much information :P

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14 Sep 2016 15:43 #257134 by

Loudzoo wrote:

Tellahane wrote: So I heard this line earlier today on the radio, it's not a quote of someone famous that I know of but the idea is if you can't explain any given topic/device/item/idea to a 10 year old in a way that they will understand it(and not just what it is but how it works and why you use it), then you don't truly 100% understand it yourself.


It's pretty close to the Einstein attributed quote "If you can't explain something to a six-year-old, you really don't understand it yourself."

Although I've also seen this attributed to Einstein too: "You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother."

According to this (http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/8742/did-einstein-say-if-you-cant-explain-it-simply-you-dont-understand-it-well-en)

if you open page 418 of Einstein: His Life and Times (1972) by Ronald W. Clark, it says that Louis de Broglie did attribute a similar statement to Einstein:

To de Broglie, Einstein revealed an instinctive reason for his inability to accept the purely statistical interpretation of wave mechanics. It was a reason which linked him with Rutherford, who used to state that "it should be possible to explain the laws of physics to a barmaid." Einstein, having a final discussion with de Broglie on the platform of the Gare du Nord in Paris, whence they had traveled from Brussels to attend the Fresnel centenary celebrations, said "that all physical theories, their mathematical expressions apart ought to lend themselves to so simple a description 'that even a child could understand them.' "


There's some good advice here that we could probably all benefit from!! http://www.cambridgenetwork.co.uk/news/if-you-can-t-explain-it-to-a-six-year-old-you-probably-don-t4190/
Warning: Spoiler!


But maybe that's too much information :P


too much information...... :lol:

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