Satanist Leads Invocation at Alaskan Assembly Meeting

Snowy Aftermath wrote:

Khaos wrote:

Snowy Aftermath wrote:

Alexandre Orion wrote: As Alan Watts points out, in the Christian tradition, Jesus sits at the right hand of God. but who sits at His left ?

Now THAT idea spins me around a bit! Love it!

Holy Trinity, so I thought it was obvious.

Father, Son, Holy Ghost.

I'm kind of enjoying the idea that the "holy ghost" might in fact the be "devil" character. It works in as many ways as it doesn't, really.

Also, humans are the ones who invented the trinity concept, complete with our limited brains and ridiculously limited ideas about what gods could ever be. Maybe it's a quadrality, maybe there are billions of figures, maybe what we think is god's voice is just dust blowing over a rock in the desert somewhere. Who knows?

It's fun to think about sometimes when you're between doing actual things that matter. As long as you don't get stuck on it

Humans invented a lot of things did not we , wish we could invent how to get along , and to accept eachothers believes or our not believes , we invented heaven ,we invented hell , we invented that there is someone sitting next to G'd , so why cannot we sit next to Him ? We just have to invent it , i dont know who Satan is in the Temple of Satan. In the bible he is the one who wanted to Be like G'd and have his "Powers" ? But anyway ...

Be it as it is , after thinking about it , religion has no place in the public domain as far as i am concerned ...i wonder who the next one is in Alaska who leads the Invocation at Alaskan Assembly Meeting, The Brethren ? On bare feet ?

Edan wrote: I've seen many different Satanic groups over the years (and been a part of a few of them, including some questionable ones)... I don't always agree with the methods that the Satanic Temple use (e.g. the 'Red Mass' or whatever it was called), but it makes a change for Satanists to actually be speaking out. There is inequality out there, and it is very common for Satanists to be very insular and just 'do what they do' without really thinking about what is going on in the outside world. Satan is the challenger and, for better or for worse, the Satanic Temple have taken that to heart.

I like the tenets on their website, and the people on the site generally seem well adjusted.. not agreeing with them doesn't make them hucksters, though you're entitled to that opinion, Zenchi. I have always disliked the Church of Satan's circus, and I'm not much of a fan of their literature either, but I can see that what they do works for them.

The irony about what the Satanic Temple do is that by shining a light on themselves, those Christians who would treat others differently have made fools of themselves. One example I can think of is the lady that kicked down the Satanic Nativity. As a Satanist myself I find the idea of a Satanic Nativity ridiculous, but the point it was trying to make was made... that things are not all equal when it comes to religion and politics.

Thank you Edan , this makes it a lot clearer for me why this is indeed , news .. you are right , its not equal

Ahem....I've been told privately by another apprentice that, although I may have had a valid point, it was drowned out by my un jedi like choice of words in the posts above. So...with that being said I do so wholeheartedly........apologize to anyone who I may have offended, it was not my intent. Now if you'll excuse me, my punching bag requires a beat down.....

Zenchi wrote: Ahem....I've been told privately by another apprentice that, although I may have had a valid point, it was drowned out by my un jedi like choice of words in the posts above. So...with that being said I do so wholeheartedly........apologize to anyone who I may have offended, it was not my intent. Now if you'll excuse me, my punching bag requires a beat down.....

wow ....you can tell said apprentice that sometime the message is more important than the word choice, i for one was not offended , you and Jamie both shot of a little...are we now to apologize in public for every little glitch ...just ...wow

MartaLina wrote:

Zenchi wrote: Ahem....I've been told privately by another apprentice that, although I may have had a valid point, it was drowned out by my un jedi like choice of words in the posts above. So...with that being said I do so wholeheartedly........apologize to anyone who I may have offended, it was not my intent. Now if you'll excuse me, my punching bag requires a beat down.....

wow ....you can tell said apprentice that sometime the message is more important than the word choice, i for one was not offended , you and Jamie both shot of a little...are we now to apologize in public for every little glitch ...just ...wow

It wasn't his idea. His message was that I could have easily proven my point without the "mudslinging."

If I don't strive to hold myself to the doctrine than why bother...

Zenchi wrote:

MartaLina wrote:

Zenchi wrote: Ahem....I've been told privately by another apprentice that, although I may have had a valid point, it was drowned out by my un jedi like choice of words in the posts above. So...with that being said I do so wholeheartedly........apologize to anyone who I may have offended, it was not my intent. Now if you'll excuse me, my punching bag requires a beat down.....

wow ....you can tell said apprentice that sometime the message is more important than the word choice, i for one was not offended , you and Jamie both shot of a little...are we now to apologize in public for every little glitch ...just ...wow

It wasn't his idea. His message was that I could have easily proven my point without the "mudslinging."

If I don't strive to hold myself to the doctrine than why bother...

ok

MartaLina wrote:

Zenchi wrote: Ahem....I've been told privately by another apprentice that, although I may have had a valid point, it was drowned out by my un jedi like choice of words in the posts above. So...with that being said I do so wholeheartedly........apologize to anyone who I may have offended, it was not my intent. Now if you'll excuse me, my punching bag requires a beat down.....

wow ....you can tell said apprentice that sometime the message is more important than the word choice, i for one was not offended , you and Jamie both shot of a little...are we now to apologize in public for every little glitch ...just ...wow

While I was not offended, politer wording makes for conversations with less... 'opposition'.

I am glad that they allowed it. There was recently a Wiccan ceremony of some kind held at the opening of my states General Assembly in the same spirit. It obviously didn't get as much press because, as has been mentioned, anything to do with the Satanic Temple gets more press than any other "less traditional" religion. Either they all need fair representation regarding government or none should get any. Personally, I am all for complete separation of religion and government.

Goken wrote: I am all for complete separation of religion and government.

In an ideal world