What's Wrong With Liberals (And Conservatives)?

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10 Aug 2016 00:13 - 10 Aug 2016 00:15 #251553 by Br. John
Unconscious Reactions Separate Liberals and Conservatives

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/calling-truce-political-wars/

Psychological insights might tone down the bitter feuding between Democrats and Republicans
By Emily Laber-Warren on September 1, 2012


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10 Aug 2016 03:52 #251566 by
Interesting piece, it does sort of boil down to "people join the political party that is more in line with their personality and ideology" and "people are malleable"

But the dems and reps not being at each others throats 24/7 is an important first step to a lot of changes that need to take place in this country.

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10 Aug 2016 04:28 - 10 Aug 2016 04:29 #251569 by
I couldn't imagine an article that reflects the AP program more accurately. I do hope that some day both sides see that they need to other in order to exist. But sadly I don't think it will happen for many years. The duality of things is truly amazing and once the majority of people see that they are two sides of the same coin, I think they will start actually respecting one another.
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10 Aug 2016 07:41 #251590 by
In the UK, the Conservatives are all selfish, Eton educated snobs who care only for the money that goes towards a new yacht, and the Liberal Democrats sit on the fence. They say things that are impossible to achieve.

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10 Aug 2016 07:50 #251592 by MadHatter
Very interesting article. I think its fairly spot on as well. Thank you for posting this.

Silas Mercury wrote: In the UK, the Conservatives are all selfish, Eton educated snobs who care only for the money that goes towards a new yacht, and the Liberal Democrats sit on the fence. They say things that are impossible to achieve.


So you can judge every single one of these people? You know them all and have spoke to each and every one of them to know that this is their belief and that is how they behave? Some how I think not.

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10 Aug 2016 08:15 - 10 Aug 2016 08:41 #251600 by Brick

Silas Mercury wrote: In the UK, the Conservatives are all selfish, Eton educated snobs who care only for the money that goes towards a new yacht, and the Liberal Democrats sit on the fence. They say things that are impossible to achieve.


Thats a very skewed and IMO outdated opinion. The main issue that British Politics facing at present is that all the parties are the same (or were until very recently). The Lib Dems are a Centralist Party, the current Conservative government is Right Leaning Centralist, the previous Labour governments (coincidentally many of whom were also educated at private schools and come from a middle class background) were Left Leaning Centralist.

The only change that has happened now is that Corbyn has been voted in as Labour Leader with policies from the 1970's disguised as a 'new kind of politics', which is threatening to divide a party that (I don't support) but is fundamental to British Politics as we know it.

Also, if you don't like the right wing Conservatives in the UK you would HATE American politics. In terms of the Democrats and the Republicans, America doesn't have a Left Wing (as we in the UK know it), they have a Conservative Party and a SUPER Conservative Party :laugh:

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10 Aug 2016 08:20 #251606 by
Jeremy Corbyn is a brilliant guy, and would be the best person to be the next PM. But I will be voting Lib Dem and Tim Farron because corbyn lacks the charisma.

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10 Aug 2016 08:30 - 10 Aug 2016 08:30 #251608 by Brick

Silas Mercury wrote: Jeremy Corbyn is a brilliant guy, and would be the best person to be the next PM. But I will be voting Lib Dem and Tim Farron because corbyn lacks the charisma.


See that confuses me :huh: Because you're going to vote for a party that you just said promises things that 'are impossible to achieve'.

Which coincidentally is my exact problem with Corbyn. I agree with a massive amount of what he says because, socially, I'm left leaning (from the north after all :laugh: ). 'University should free', agreed! 'Healthcare should be free', agreed! 'We shouldn't need Nuclear Weapons', agreed! But Mr. Corbyn, how are you going to fund this? 'I haven't a clue' And thats my problem with his policies. 'Tax the rich' isnt an answer, the rich already pay about 40% of ALL tax in the UK.

And his comments about not pressing the button if we were under nuclear attack was ridiculous! Granted I wouldn't I press it either, but the point of it is to be a deterrent! You're not suppose to tell people that you wouldn't press it! :laugh:

Though I fear we've completely hijacked this thread. Sorry John. Perhaps you'd like to continue this conversation over PM? :)

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10 Aug 2016 08:36 #251609 by
I'm fine with PM convos sorry for killing the thread :)

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10 Aug 2016 08:43 #251610 by Br. John
It does not bother me. PM if you want or discuss it here. I like seeing how things are going in different countries and the sociological differences. Why is it in The US police kill somebody every day but it's so rare in The UK? Am I wrong about that?

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