Are you a grey Jedi?

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17 Jun 2016 20:07 #245389 by Eleven
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I was viewing multiple sources the other night for advice for saber builds and I cane across and article in "grey jedi" now the content from the video was for fictional Jedi I know but it made me wonder...hmm does such a thing exist? How a grey Jedi us defined is someone who is neither for all the "light" side of the force but not opposed to the "dark" side they're kind of in the "grey" area. I begun to contemplate and seek reflection on how I view myself am I a grey Jedi? Am I all for the light side? Or am I for the "dark"? Or am I some how in the middle the "grey" area?

From studies you can base this off many subjects but I will only use a few so not to ramble...lol um for starters The Bible would say in revelation to be either hot or cold but to be lukewarm is worst than either and its better to be hot or cold. Asian philosophy would say yen and yang balance between the two great pulls. Bill watts or Joseph Campbell I think its Watts...said is there light without darkness or vice versa? Can one really consider one evil and one Good? That would be in the eye of the beholder. One may claim what they believe is Good and another claim to another as evil. OK I am getting off subject...

I decided to go ask my friends and co workers what they thought of me.

My Wife
"Your a wonderful husband, provider, a geek but, I wish you weren't so grouchy first think in the morning."

My Sister
"I love you, your my brother your a turkey at times but you always go outta your way to make sure my needs are met...thank you."

Danyal (Co Worker)
"Hard worker, your good person, a geek I will say you kinda got a little temper now and then but cannot blame you customer service can be a... (Cuss work)"

Nicole (Co Worker)
Thank God your taking over as Night Mgr. Scott's a (censored) oh...yeah your great Master Jedi.."

Customer #1 Joyce
Your great honey you'll make a great mgr. Say could you lower the prices on your crab salad when your training is completed I am old and only get ssi ..."

Customer #2 Chris

"Your great man."

Customer #3 Derek

"Your an (cuss) and so is this store I hate this store too darn expensive but its too convenient as (cuss)"

...lol got more but get the picture. Am I grey? After writing it down I would view myself more toward the light than dark but I do have my moments. But even still is "grey" Jedi a myth or is it exist within our realm of our temple?

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17 Jun 2016 20:24 - 17 Jun 2016 20:28 #245395 by Leah Starspectre
I don't think that how others view you determines your Jedi Path, but how you view yourself.

Do YOU feel that you are often drawn towards darkness? Do you sometime prefer darker choices such as greed, fear, power, ego, manipulation indulgence, selfishness, etc, rather than striving always to be loyal, honest, and just?

It's your call, my friend.
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17 Jun 2016 20:27 #245397 by
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That depends on what you want to be known as. Light, grey, and dark,... are all labels that may describe your heart, at the time. (Of course, I'm not talking about your literal heart. lol)

My heart is dark at times and light during others. I don't hold too well to these labels.

It also depends on context. In some circles, dark vs light just means how you handle your life, or your attitude towards events in your life (action vs prayer; anger vs compassion; bitterness vs forgiveness). It's also not always about this vs that, but more about what you deem appropriate at the time. I'm utilitarian, by nature, so I use whatever suits the situation. If that makes me grey, then so be it.

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17 Jun 2016 20:42 #245403 by
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Personally I believe that all Jedi are Grey Jedi. I don't believe that anyone can be wholly "light" or "dark." One of my favorite rebuttals to the concept of a truly "dark" person is the phrase "Hitler loved dogs." I feel like it's a quote from somewhere but I can't quite place it right now.

I do not believe that anything is black and white, it's all just shades of grey. I also don't apply a lot of the fiction to my personal Jedi path. Parts, yes, but not a lot.

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17 Jun 2016 21:03 #245411 by
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Goken wrote: Personally I believe that all Jedi are Grey Jedi. I don't believe that anyone can be wholly "light" or "dark." One of my favorite rebuttals to the concept of a truly "dark" person is the phrase "Hitler loved dogs." I feel like it's a quote from somewhere but I can't quite place it right now.

I do not believe that anything is black and white, it's all just shades of grey. I also don't apply a lot of the fiction to my personal Jedi path. Parts, yes, but not a lot.


MM.. if we say we are not dark or light.. we say with other words that we are not willingly to put ourselves in one spot. But when we say that we are gray, we are also putting ourselves in a spot. One cannot escape the games of black and white and gray!! We have a little bit of everything in us I guess. It does not make me feel happy to say I am something.. But if I do not, I would run away if it would be true? I am happy!? with what I am, but strange to say I do not know what I am?

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17 Jun 2016 21:10 #245413 by
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I have no idea , i just want to do the right thing for the right reasons , i am here to learn ...

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17 Jun 2016 21:13 #245414 by
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I have no idea how a grey Jedi distinguishes him- or herself from a just-Jedi Jedi, so I can't possibly be one, unless I actually am one. I have a vague idea that it has to do with rejecting absolutes or extremes, and therefore probably fits me to a T except when it doesn't.

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17 Jun 2016 21:55 #245416 by
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Sometimes I'm a green Jedi. Sometimes blue. It really depends on which shirt I'm wearing that day. :laugh:

But seriously, I call myself "Jedi", but what does that even mean? If one truly considers themselves an expression of the Force as I do, we're all a part of everything else anyway. "Jedi" and any other label I use for myself is simply to satisfy my ego.

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17 Jun 2016 23:57 - 18 Jun 2016 00:22 #245424 by
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I do feel a pull toward dark things... horror novels, survival games, music that involves a lot of intense rage/pain, etc. I've talked about my tendency toward misery and the constant fight to keep myself out of that again. There has been fear, ego, selfishness and dark stuff in my past.

My negative emotions are the reason I am even pursuing Jediism in the first place. It's not always easy. Working in retail is draining. Parenting a teenager can be draining. Having to fight an uphill battle through the messes I made while depressed is definitely a huge drain. But I can see myself finding footing again, after all of this time of being in freefall.

So, yes, I identify as grey. I am still, at heart, the same person, just without the mental illness and total isolation I suffered because of it. To completely turn off who I was in the past will never be possible. All of the guts and scars are still there, and I'm trying to make the best of them and learn from them. I'll never be innocent again, but I can do my best with what I have.
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18 Jun 2016 04:41 #245441 by Eleven
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These are all helpful thoughts and I agree with all of them. I am not necessarily talking about myself though that whole survey was merely just for fun really nothing more I thought everyone would think it was a little comic relief but, I think I am the only one that thought it was funny...lol oh well...

After reading what some of you posted and pondering my thoughts and mediation. I often think to myself as more of "light" rather than darkness but, it doesn't mean I cannot have darkside impulses I am human after all. I do get upset at times, I get depressed I make mistakes and cry. But, within me I want to be good and do good toward others. I have always been told my biggest downfall is that I care too much about people and too little about myself. I don't consider myself a noisy person but, I do like to listen to peoples problems and do take an interest in their lives outside work or related activities it's just me. I know some people find that annoying but, I am always willing to listen and hear people. There is too many people in the world today that would be better off if they knew someone cared about them, if someone took the time to listen to them, so some love.

A question I asked myself this evening was, "Do you consider yourself a grey jedi?" My answer was no. I don't view myself as such because I do follow the tenants of this temple the 21 maxims and I try to be the best person I can be everyday. I have no desire to be about myself, I don't wish to be any of the things that Miss Leah mentioned but, about Justice, love, honesty.

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