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Is Christmas no longer a religious holiday?
24 Dec 2015 23:46 #215917
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I had an odd thought today. Have we, at least in America, taken Christmas to the point of now being more cultural than religious?
I know many people who are not Christian who celebrate Christmas still because it's just kind of what we do in America. Plus, lets be honest, pretty much the entire holiday and all of its traditions are borrowed from Pagan holidays anyway. Really, the most Christian thing about Christmas is it's name. I think I honestly see it as something that was once specific to a religion but has kind of become a cultural thing regardless of religion.
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I know many people who are not Christian who celebrate Christmas still because it's just kind of what we do in America. Plus, lets be honest, pretty much the entire holiday and all of its traditions are borrowed from Pagan holidays anyway. Really, the most Christian thing about Christmas is it's name. I think I honestly see it as something that was once specific to a religion but has kind of become a cultural thing regardless of religion.
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24 Dec 2015 23:57 #215919
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For sure!! Multiculturalism, globalization and the scientific revolution with all the 'age of enlightenment' stuff means societies are much more diverse.
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25 Dec 2015 00:05 - 25 Dec 2015 00:05 #215920
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I wouldn't say so. Just becouse a thing was it doesen't have to be any more
Atheists celebrate christmas even though they do not belive in the existance of god and jesus. I belive it has became less of a spiritual and religous holiday to a material holiday, and also a time of appreciation and gratitude.
I have muslim friends who 'celebrate' christmas, they don't do it in the way that they go to church and read stories about Jesus but they do the typical things, a christmas tree, gifts etc.
So no, i wouldn't say it is.
Atheists celebrate christmas even though they do not belive in the existance of god and jesus. I belive it has became less of a spiritual and religous holiday to a material holiday, and also a time of appreciation and gratitude.
I have muslim friends who 'celebrate' christmas, they don't do it in the way that they go to church and read stories about Jesus but they do the typical things, a christmas tree, gifts etc.
So no, i wouldn't say it is.
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25 Dec 2015 01:32 #215942
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I'll wish people that follow those religions season's greetings and be mindful of what they do
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25 Dec 2015 01:33 #215943
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I celebrate more astrological and nature events like solstice
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25 Dec 2015 01:42 #215946
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I think it is a time to be happy, and share happiness with family and friends. Giving gifts is a self-fulfilling activity of giving joy to others. Relax, share meals, laugh eat & drink with others. I went to mass with my wife and family because it made her happy. I got a bottle of home made wine to take home. Tomorrow my sister and brother are coming over for dinner. My son will be there my daughter and grandchildren won't. 
I don't know if that is a a religious experience/holiday but it works for me just fine.

I don't know if that is a a religious experience/holiday but it works for me just fine.
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25 Dec 2015 04:58 #215961
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I as well follow the Solstice more so than the Holidays. Spiritually anyways.
But when you have two kids, I, personally feel it is terrible to exclude your children from such a wide spread tradition. Everyone does it...I mean....everyone. It's in the schools, the friends do it at home and they share it with friends, other family members do it....I am just not one of those kinds of people to say "Well its not our religion so, tough luck kids, you just get to watch everyone else do it." So...we still get a tree and a couple presents. It's not as grand and huge like most families... Like this year The only thing they got was: (Stockings) A Shopkin's blanket, playdough, Shopkin's toy, a Apple and a couple snicker minis + Side present of Kids Lip Gloss and Finger Nail Polish. Both kids get exactly the same thing and it is quite litterally all that is under our tree right now. Its small....But the kids will think the world has stopped just for them and they will have big smiles for it
Which is the most important part for me
I am curious however....When do YOU (Anyone who wishes to respond) Open Presents? I'm learning that there are several who actually open on Christams Eve....which is new to me
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But when you have two kids, I, personally feel it is terrible to exclude your children from such a wide spread tradition. Everyone does it...I mean....everyone. It's in the schools, the friends do it at home and they share it with friends, other family members do it....I am just not one of those kinds of people to say "Well its not our religion so, tough luck kids, you just get to watch everyone else do it." So...we still get a tree and a couple presents. It's not as grand and huge like most families... Like this year The only thing they got was: (Stockings) A Shopkin's blanket, playdough, Shopkin's toy, a Apple and a couple snicker minis + Side present of Kids Lip Gloss and Finger Nail Polish. Both kids get exactly the same thing and it is quite litterally all that is under our tree right now. Its small....But the kids will think the world has stopped just for them and they will have big smiles for it

I am curious however....When do YOU (Anyone who wishes to respond) Open Presents? I'm learning that there are several who actually open on Christams Eve....which is new to me

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Christmas day. In a few hours everyone is still in bed now.

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25 Dec 2015 17:19 #216007
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christmas is still a religious holiday for many people, but i think clearly its grown into a more of a cultural tradition as well
growing up we were always allowed to open one present on christmas eve and then the rest on christmas morning
growing up we were always allowed to open one present on christmas eve and then the rest on christmas morning
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25 Dec 2015 17:28 #216009
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The home has a very important meaning for humans. For pre-Christian traditions is the Yule, God's birth celebration that symbolizes the return of spring, it symbolizes union; these people had to unite to survive the winter, not just one family, but several families in clans. Christmas is the union, the joy of a new beginning, a new cycle, the return of life after winter; this is the wheel of life.Then with Christianity they decided that Jesus was the one God and to assimilate that God used his birth on that date. Still, Jesus preaches unity, love and life. My opinion is that no matter if you believe in one god, or force, or in many gods; Christmas is the celebration of union, love and joy of being alive. Understand this is how to be a wizard, is whether being a Christian is knowing how to be Jedi. Brotherhood, love and peace
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