Knights Teaching

Edan wrote: I think the purpose of teaching is to help you come to your own understanding, not someone else's.


Edit: Sorry, my comment was to Aqua

No problem at all Edan,

To be saying that I have followed two years of didactic lessons should not be important. But what I did learn from it is, maybe.. I would like to say is that teaching is all about learning, sharing information to allow an student to learn. The ways to share information is called didactic if I am right, not sure if it is the correct English word..
If an teaching does not allow an student to understand his teacher, how would he be able to understand himself from his perspective? How to be able to understand why his teacher is showing an specific lesson? For me teaching should always be an two way story. Or misunderstandings will come.
In the end I agree with you about finding own understanding.. hope that the understanding of the teacher is just as important.. even though you do not have to follow an other person his understanding, understanding about the understanding of the teacher makes the reaction of the teacher understandable.. .. Maybe I am a bit cryptic with those words.. however I want to thank you for pointing your edit, happy to understand the purpose of your posts a little better..

just wondering..


- Aqua

ps. I did edited it a few times, I mostly do.. advice to read all my posts after a few minutes / 15 minutes for big ones.. Most of the time I use edit a lot. :dry:

Aqua wrote: ps. I did edited it a few times, I mostly do.. advice to read all my posts after a few minutes / 15 minutes for big ones.. Most of the time I use edit a lot. :dry:

I do that too Aqua No worries! I often get frustrated when I find a typo...I often type what I am thinking but not what I am seeing (As in, the words I see appear to be what I am thinking....even if later it is a glaring mistake...at the moment...its not.) so my sentences go all stupid until I read it 15 or so minuets later......By then the Edit option expires *grumbles*

Jestor wrote:

Kitsu Tails wrote: Do you believe the Ability to Teach a student is necessary in order to earn and hold the title "Knight"

Say for example...I become a Knight here and chose not to teach a single student due to a lack of experiance in the field or not comfortable in doing so or simply chose not to. ((This is just an example Id teach if asked)) would i still be a Knight? Or would I lose that title due to that decision.

Our Knight rank does not require the teaching of another in a one-on-one manner...

But, to remember that we all teach through our actions, and to be mindful of them...

Thank you Jestor! I love it when conversations go as they should! Your awesome!

One last question. Are there any Knights in the past year that has not taken on a student here?

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For inquiring minds these questions came up in another off site conversation

Kitsu Tails wrote: Thank you Jestor! I love it when conversations go as they should! Your awesome!

I'm not quite sure how to take that ... "when conversations go 'as they should' ? A question was asked ; some of us have endeavoured to answer it ...

:blink:

Jestor's response is excellent - and quite accurate - as Knighthood in the TotJO carries no teaching "requirement". Yet, on another hand, and not at all contradictory to what anyone has said, it would best be that the 'ability to teach' would be taking root in there somewhere. So, whereas we never say : "You must teach." We do encourage it ...

Jedi principles and skills are in that variety of which we sometimes say : "You have to give it away to keep it." Furthermore, since our training is never "done" - it is a lifelong exercise - the 'teacher' often 'learns' as much from the 'learner' as the 'learner' does from the 'teacher'. The 'teaching' itself becomes the lesson -- for both.

Kitsu Tails wrote: One last question. Are there any Knights in the past year that has not taken on a student here?

There are one or two ...

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For inquiring minds these questions came up in another off site conversation

Alexandre Orion wrote: I'm not quite sure how to take that ... "when conversations go 'as they should' ? A question was asked ; some of us have endeavoured to answer it ...

You shouldn't be taking it as nothing more than what it says. As in there was no derailment of topic, or judgment of poster character or all around resulting drama. It was meant as a compliment in responder conduct..... Forgive me if that was missed....

Oh ... ! right !

Sorry, Kitsu, for I did indeed misread that. Since you launched into praise for Jestor's response, I took it more as "at last someone is answering my question !"

Apologies for the misinterpretation ....

Alexandre Orion wrote: Oh ... ! right !

Sorry, Kitsu, for I did indeed misread that. Since you launched into praise for Jestor's response, I took it more as "at last someone is answering my question !"

Apologies for the misinterpretation ....

Oh no!! I appreciate ALL answers But I was following my compliment up with a question more direct to Jestor's words. Poor Post arrangement. My bad. *bows*

Cheers, Kitsu ...

I got to thinking a little more about that question actually ... I feel that the "ability" to teach would best be there. Sort of like in martial arts training : you train so you don't have to fight. But, you can if you have to. One really wouldn't want to go looking for a fight to prove one's mettle, so to speak. Some do, but that's not our way ...

I don't feel that we should train to teach the World and then go looking for students. Personally, I let my students come to me. All of their apprenticeships are quite different, one from another - thus, if that "ability" hadn't been developed somewhere along the path(s) ... well, I'd be screwed.

The thing is, teaching is just sharing. The maître shares some things that s/he has found useful along the way. Those things may not work for the student - or even work any more for the teacher. That is where the lesson is to find what does. I don't really believe much in "self-help". "Self-knowledge", yes. But, no one can 'teach' another to "be oneSelf". It is merely an accompaniment, travelling companion style, with ample patience, simplicity and compassion.

Aye, I agree Alex I believe that the "How to teach" should be made into lessons for people to indulge in should they want to....But I don't think it should be a requirement. There are more than one way's for a Knight to Serve his or her community. Teaching is just one way.....And really anyone of any rank can do it. Sometimes we teach without knowing or meaning to.....that's got nothing to do with Rank though

In general "Knight" just tell's people that you have been around for awhile and are most likely able to help the new members or administration should your service be needed.

Thank you ALL for your comments. And I do hope to see this thread continue Some folks in another Community stated that - If you didn't know how to teach....you shouldn't call yourself a Knight. And Thus the topic was created.

*Bows*

Some communities also think "martial prowess" should be a requirement...

Its kinda why we are so big on the 'individualistic' side of this path...

If we said "yes, must teach", we would lose a large chunk of folks, and really, we need to focus on ourselves, get our poop together, then, help others...

Reaching Knighthood at TOTJO is like getting your 1st degree Blackbelt, it is expected, if you are serious, but it is the first REAL step on the journey, toward being a better 'you'...

If that makes sense...

We can logic most things out, lol...