What would they say to you?

Fiona is a dear friend of mine (she does tarot readings) that I met as a result of my connections to the Okinawan Military Pagan community. Recently embarked on a spiritual journey to connect with her ancestors via a "Ancestor Healer". Below is a link to her blog on what she experienced.

http://fionabenjamintarot.tumblr.com/post/96704580292/review-of-ancestor-healings-reading-service

So I wonder, if you look at your own life, what do you think your own ancestors would say of the person you have become? Do you think they would be proud? Disgusted? Indifferent? Why?

Then, after that is answered- ask yourself: Do I care what they believe? And if I don't- do I care what the rest of society believes? Why or why not?

Alethea Thompson wrote: So I wonder, if you look at your own life, what do you think your own ancestors would say of the person you have become? Do you think they would be proud? Disgusted? Indifferent? Why?

Then, after that is answered- ask yourself: Do I care what they believe? And if I don't- do I care what the rest of society believes? Why or why not?

Depending on how far I might go back, whichever of my ancestors I chose, I imagine they probably wouldn't be very impressed with a woman in finance. They'd probably be saying, 'why don't you have children yet' 'why aren't you married' (some of my family are saying this to me now).

Looking back at my ancestors is interesting, in the last 100 years they were a travelling carnival family right up until my great grandfather. But.... I have no interest in what they might have thought of me, or in fact, what anyone else thinks of what I've become. They can accept me as I am, or they can't, but that's all down to them.

Alethea Thompson wrote: Fiona is a dear friend of mine (she does tarot readings) that I met as a result of my connections to the Okinawan Military Pagan community. Recently embarked on a spiritual journey to connect with her ancestors via a "Ancestor Healer". Below is a link to her blog on what she experienced.

http://fionabenjamintarot.tumblr.com/post/96704580292/review-of-ancestor-healings-reading-service

So I wonder, if you look at your own life, what do you think your own ancestors would say of the person you have become? Do you think they would be proud? Disgusted? Indifferent? Why?

Then, after that is answered- ask yourself: Do I care what they believe? And if I don't- do I care what the rest of society believes? Why or why not?

A question.. no doubt that I say,, love to answer''

I do not know if there is one life, I feel like I have seen more than one trough different eras of history, I am not sure.. However I shall say that I do not know if I have one family line of ancestors or that I have multiple family lines of ancestors. Secondly I do not know in what kind of state they are, or if they remember me. I am sorry, but I feel more comfortable if I turn the question inside out

If I look at my own life I have made mistakes, not caring for people, kind of hate inside me, like cynicism, given judgment not knowing why.. Back in my pre-teen years I was different.. Minding me of my own lessons I became shy turned my back to possible friends started fighting, training and a few years in almost silence.
I sought information about the ancient Maya and Inca`s Aztecs as well, about the nine stages of self awareness hidden in their calendars, about the Michael teachings and Buddhism. Starting to understand myself guessing that I must be reminded of my lessons of awareness in order to continue with evolving. No road without direction, figuratively way of speaking.



I guess that my ancestors could know that I making a path of awareness, following lessons that shape myself. According to the Michael teachings the self awareness will be understandable after becoming + /- 35 years of age.. I guess that I am not fully capable of knowing what kind of person I have become, guessing they see it as part of a whole, nothing more nor less.

I see myself as a part of a whole, I can not care if I do not know what they believe and I shall not care what society believes, I believe society is learning, having her own lessons and society must learn how to deal with those lessons in her own way, I shall not interrupt with her, I never did.

May the force be with you,

Despite my mistakes I get the feeling my ancestors would be impressed with how I am...does it matter to me? Not really I've always felt that people can take me as I am or not at all...the one thing that seems to cause any concern with my entire family is the fact that I still don't have any children....oh well no one's perfect.....although I'm pretty damn close :evil:

Edan wrote: Depending on how far I might go back, whichever of my ancestors I chose, I imagine they probably wouldn't be very impressed with a woman in finance. They'd probably be saying, 'why don't you have children yet' 'why aren't you married' (some of my family are saying this to me now).

Looking back at my ancestors is interesting, in the last 100 years they were a travelling carnival family right up until my great grandfather. But.... I have no interest in what they might have thought of me, or in fact, what anyone else thinks of what I've become. They can accept me as I am, or they can't, but that's all down to them.

Not trying to start an discussion about women rights, but in the ancient Egypt women were equal to men, ( I believe in equality, just as more people today ) Maybe an ancient Egyptian ancestor would be proud on your path to finance Try to look on the bright side of history as well, the 19th and 20th century were not the only eras. :silly:

I think it depends which ancestors you ask. If it was my Mormon ancestors they would probably be very hurt and disappointed in my choices that led away from their religion.

If it was my ancestors that lived in the Victorian age, they would probably be shocked that I compliment my wife when she wears a tank top with shorts and that I don't quickly get a towel to cover her up! (BTW, she looks beautiful in whatever clothes she decides to wear! )

And I know some ancestors would probably disown me knowing that I associate and consider a few gay people I know as friends!

Or are you talking about ancestors that despite having lived in a completely different age of what's right/wrong are up-to-speed on our 21st century morals and society and judge us based on that?

If I'm happy and feel fulfilled in my life (the life I chose to make for myself, the journey I willingly took to get where I am now, despite all its ups/downs), I don't care what my ancestors or society thinks of me.

Though usually, when I feel fulfilled and happy, I've been told by others that it's fun having me around, haha. I guess that's good. :laugh:

Aqua wrote: Not trying to start an discussion about women rights, but in the ancient Egypt women were equal to men, ( I believe in equality, just as more people today ) Maybe an ancient Egyptian ancestor would be proud on your path to finance Try to look on the bright side of history as well, the 19th and 20th century were not the only eras. :silly:

The whole social hierarchy in Ancient Egypt was definitely different, with women able to have higher social positions than one would normally expect, but it was not what I'd call equal ...

And I was only bringing up what I know about my family. Opinions on the status of women have been very similar in many eras throughout history, so I think my original post was pretty close whoever you're talking about.

If I was a man, I'd probably have the same questions from ancestors re marriage and children..

Edan wrote: The whole social hierarchy in Ancient Egypt was definitely different, with women able to have higher social positions than one would normally expect, but it was not what I'd call equal ...

And I was only bringing up what I know about my family. Opinions on the status of women have been very similar in many eras throughout history, so I think my original post was pretty close whoever you're talking about.

If I was a man, I'd probably have the same questions from ancestors re marriage and children..

I do not want to make you feel sad or angry, I am sorry if I did Edan

Aqua wrote:

Edan wrote: The whole social hierarchy in Ancient Egypt was definitely different, with women able to have higher social positions than one would normally expect, but it was not what I'd call equal ...

And I was only bringing up what I know about my family. Opinions on the status of women have been very similar in many eras throughout history, so I think my original post was pretty close whoever you're talking about.

If I was a man, I'd probably have the same questions from ancestors re marriage and children..

I do not want to make you feel sad or angry, I am sorry if I did Edan

Will PM you Aqua

i havethought on this closely. i welcome now and always other conserns and wisdome and advice. my goal as a Jedi is to grow and better understand my self and create in me value every day of my life. my ancestors all the way back to my 5 th gen were migrant workers. never amounting to what you would say as success, but from what ive learned from old srories from my g ma and great gam they were content with what they had and didnt have. when they got bored, they spent time with their family and made new memories. my gg gfather was king at this. case in point. he was a construction worker. grunt brick layer and concrete pourer. never fancy and glamorous. one year he started digging a hole in the back yard. then when summer came he employed the family to help. after about two weeks it was evident what the hole was for.... a pool. he tought my great uncles that summer how to lay pipe rods and leverl the ground from alot of that project to which they had a full concrete pool. make memories. be the answer to the need you seek. dig a hole fillit have fun was his motto lol . i would have a beer or two with my past fathers if i could have a chance and would gladly want to learn from them. now adays we pass veryy little to any one, shouldnt we want to pass our wisdome and experience on to our family? if it wasnt for a uncle namex max and his love for wood work i would never know how to split beams and studs to make forms and walls...savy!?