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04 Feb 2015 12:09 #180156 by Tarran
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Since I was about 3 years old, every night for over a decade was filled with horrific nightmares. Yeah, most of my dreamstate life, I knew I was dreaming while I was. It didn't help me much until I realized that it could. If only I knew then what I know now... lol

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04 Feb 2015 14:26 - 04 Feb 2015 14:26 #180165 by OB1Shinobi
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i originally encountered this subject through the works of carlos castaneda
he suggests finding ones hands as an exercize to induce lucid dreaming
the technique begins with the intent to look at ones hands in a dream.
focus on this intent regularly throughout the day and definitely before going to sleep.

"reality checks" throughout the day (am i dreaming right now? am i sure?) supplement this

once youve found your hands the next task he gives is to keep the dream from shifting into something else

he says the best way to do this is by looking at thins with "furtive glances"
to look at them without fixating or staring. he says that by looking directly or fixedly at the items of a dream will cause the dream to shift, which is the opposite of the exercise

he says that we do "deplete" attention as we dream. that simply being lucid requires energy, and that performing tasks of control requires energy/attention in relative proportion to the type of control one exerts.

he recomends looking back at ones hands whenever you feel yourself depleting your second attention energy

he asserts that it is a more valuable type of control to keep the dream from changing or to keep the dream consistent than to force the dream to alter according to ones whims

so dont turn a dinner party into a hot tub party without the intermediary step of getting the girls to agree :-D

he maintains that we have a waking attention, which generically can be called the FIRST ATTENTION

and a dreaming attention which generically can be called the SECOND ATTENTION

and that by a consistant and methodical program of "dreaming tasks" we exersize our ability to function within the second attention, which he says is intrinsically linked to the human activity often refered to as "sorcery"

which he defines precisely as the "manipulation of perception"

by this definition, anyone who takes conscious measures to deliberately control their own perception
is a "sorcerer"

morality is not involved in sorcery any more or less than in meditation
in fact meditation is an activity included within the perview of sorcery as it is an exercize deliberaty induced for the purposes of exploring and directing ones perception

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05 Feb 2015 01:59 - 05 Feb 2015 02:00 #180268 by
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This article discusses the neuroscience of lucid dreaming.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/illusion-chasers/2015/01/31/lucid-dreams/
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05 Feb 2015 02:59 #180272 by Zenchi
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I've received mad results using this, worked the very first time (course I lucid dream on a regular basis).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTAwdgf1nZE

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