Oppressed Majority.
09 Feb 2014 01:14 #137073
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Just something to think about and discuss. We don't realize the damage our words and actions have until, as they say, the shoe is on the other foot. This is why I'm a Humanist. Being Feminist or "Masculinist" is too narrow-minded for me. Humans deserve human rights, male or female, any color, any race.
If you are a minor, I'd be careful with this, or get parental consent, because it has partial nudity (chest only).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4UWxlVvT1A
If you are a minor, I'd be careful with this, or get parental consent, because it has partial nudity (chest only).
Warning: Spoiler!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4UWxlVvT1A
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09 Feb 2014 05:35 #137178
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Would you have put that warning if the topless people weren't women?
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If you are a minor, I'd be careful with this, or get parental consent, because it has partial nudity (chest only).
Would you have put that warning if the topless people weren't women?
Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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09 Feb 2014 07:12 #137193
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With how overprotective parents are today, I probably would have. :lol:
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09 Feb 2014 07:23 #137195
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Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.
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It always amazes me how it is often justified women shouldn't be topless (or people shouldn't be naked) to protect the children. yet those same people still send their kids to school or worse, let them watch TV. Oh and nowadays buy them smartphones.
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09 Feb 2014 07:42 #137197
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Funny thing is, we desensitized our boys to it because they've seen their mother nude from when they were babies and it doesn't phase them. We just didn't want our boys to make a big deal of nudity when they encountered it. Smart phones will not happen until we agree that they're mature enough to use them.
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09 Feb 2014 22:06 #137260
by Adder
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Nudity is an interesting frontier, because we're animals after all, and also most animals that survived evolution seemed to hide the interesting bits in various ways. I do not think sexuality is a result of curiosity, and so I think large scale nudity would actually increase sexualization and not decrease it.
I guess I'm not that comfortable with it on a large community scale because I've seen enough guys try and make moves on Ms Adder that if they were naked it would have been just..... over the top and result in confrontation. I doubt the result on that would be less moves being made, it would just make the moves more calculated.
With younger children I dont think its so much seeing the bits and bobs, but rather the increased chance of inappropriate behaviour by the actual and potential sex offenders (which seem to be a larger then anyone expected percentage of males). Though I'd be worried if it was a good idea during teenage years, and I cannot imagine nudity during puberty...... well I can imagine it but I think it would be chaotic yet shallow.
So I do not think nudity would be a success in anything other then family units, or maybe small communities and even then I'd imagine there would be a high attrition rate as one of the keys to intelligence is curiousity and the action of discovery. I think its just the sad remnants of patriarchy that this video still serves as useful for guys to watch.
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I guess I'm not that comfortable with it on a large community scale because I've seen enough guys try and make moves on Ms Adder that if they were naked it would have been just..... over the top and result in confrontation. I doubt the result on that would be less moves being made, it would just make the moves more calculated.
With younger children I dont think its so much seeing the bits and bobs, but rather the increased chance of inappropriate behaviour by the actual and potential sex offenders (which seem to be a larger then anyone expected percentage of males). Though I'd be worried if it was a good idea during teenage years, and I cannot imagine nudity during puberty...... well I can imagine it but I think it would be chaotic yet shallow.
So I do not think nudity would be a success in anything other then family units, or maybe small communities and even then I'd imagine there would be a high attrition rate as one of the keys to intelligence is curiousity and the action of discovery. I think its just the sad remnants of patriarchy that this video still serves as useful for guys to watch.
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09 Feb 2014 22:44 #137263
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For some reason the video isn't loading for me, but I think I get the jist of what it's probably about.
I personally don't understand the general problem with nudity; many mothers can't even breastfeed in public without looks of disgust or being asked to leave where they are. We can see a man topless, but god forbid us see a woman topless, just so shockingly offensive and unnatural...
I personally don't understand the general problem with nudity; many mothers can't even breastfeed in public without looks of disgust or being asked to leave where they are. We can see a man topless, but god forbid us see a woman topless, just so shockingly offensive and unnatural...
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09 Feb 2014 23:06 #137265
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Fascinating perspective in this film. Interesting really how no one has commented on more than the issue of nudity. A feminist society may well become like that... it is all in who holds the power is it not?
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09 Feb 2014 23:12 #137267
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Adder, well articulated. We understand that, too, which is why she's starting to cover up as the boys are getting older and are increasingly aware of the differences. As their curiosity becomes more verbalized, we make sure to explain things in ways that they will understand without dumbing it down too much. Also, it's not a 24 hours a day kind of thing, so, they understand that everything has a right time and place.
Edan, the video illustrates what it would be like if the way males and females behaved were reversed. The semi-nudity I spoke of is when there are two instances of female runners without their shirts. To me, it may have been different, but nothing to stare at. I did wonder if it hurt without something to stabilize them in place.
Edan, the video illustrates what it would be like if the way males and females behaved were reversed. The semi-nudity I spoke of is when there are two instances of female runners without their shirts. To me, it may have been different, but nothing to stare at. I did wonder if it hurt without something to stabilize them in place.
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09 Feb 2014 23:19 #137268
by Edan
As a runner the answer is almost certainly that if it didn't hurt it definitely would be uncomfortable, although I'm guessing the women in the video were more to make a point.
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Luthien wrote: To me, it may have been different, but nothing to stare at. I did wonder if it hurt without something to stabilize them in place.
As a runner the answer is almost certainly that if it didn't hurt it definitely would be uncomfortable, although I'm guessing the women in the video were more to make a point.
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