... and so, the witch hunt

Brenna wrote:

Mortose wrote:

Leandros Von wrote: I second your statement Desolous... from what I have read it would seem blatantly apparent that teaching was the intention here.

How adorable, the sheep begin to "baa" in unity.

Regardless, I stand by my previous statements... and if any of you utter fools knew anything of my path, you would know "teaching" to any important degree would be the furthest thing from my mind HERE. What would I gain "teaching" Jedi? Dispelling ignorance? Raising ideas? Do you call this as formal instruction? I do not.

Dispelling ignorance? Raising ideas? Yes, I have seen you do some of that while here. And it has been interesting. But what i see more frequently is thriving on creating needless drama and conflict. Reveling in how close you can sail to the edge of the rules and abusing the tolerance of the council in the process. Using this forum as a platform for your amusement and entertainment. Attempting to undermine the trust we as a temple have in each other. And preying on vulnerability.

You have stated many times Mortose that you are here for the sole purpose of seeking conflict. Which you have achieved spectacularly well I might add. But now as the game is drawing to a close, you are clinging on as desperately as you can. The temple (and I speak for myself and many who think like I do, not the council) is tired of indulging your game playing. The constant drama is no longer amusing, it has become dull and is wasting our time.

And yes, I realize the irony of saying that, as I post in this thread.

If you were all so tired of what you called "game playing", my journal is sure evidence with its hundreds of posts? Ignoring it might have cemented such a point, if in fact one existed? Just saying. Any drama you see was the result of not me but those who took part in making that thread as large as it became.

Yeah. Its you guyses fault. I only posted in there once.

Mortose wrote:

Jestor wrote: If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck...

Well, I'm pretty sure we've all tow that party line of it being a duck...

I still can not figure how any of you came to this conclusion. I think that is what bothers me most... What is "unauthorized teaching"? Perhaps explain it in black and white?

There are lessons everywhere, and in everything...

You like to push the line, as has been said...

And, there is little in the world that is "black and white"...

Its why I wouldn't define "teaching" for you....

its a "feeling" and an "over all impresssion" kind of deal...

Jestor wrote:
There are lessons everywhere, and in everything...

You like to push the line, as has been said...

And, there is little in the world that is "black and white"...

Its why I wouldn't define "teaching" for you....

its a "feeling" and an "over all impresssion" kind of deal...

So... an opinion and not the truth of the matter. Fascinating!

Does this mean the circus is over....cause I was kinda lookin forward to seeing the bearded lady...

Mortose wrote: If you were all so tired of what you called "game playing", my journal is sure evidence with its hundreds of posts? Ignoring it might have cemented such a point, if in fact one existed? Just saying. Any drama you see was the result of not me but those who took part in making that thread as large as it became.

Sadly there will always be those who enjoy partaking, but there is always a ringmaster. Besides, as I said, some of the conversation has in fact been interesting and informative.


*Bows out before the bearded lady makes an appearance

Mortose wrote: So... an opinion and not the truth of the matter. Fascinating!

Odd statement. Who's 'truth'?

'Armchair philosophy' can be good at making you see things with greater perspective...

Mortose wrote: How adorable, the sheep begin to "baa" in unity.

I see no baa in my previous statement good sir, I apologize however if you feel that this is a Jedi gang up.

but then....

Mortose wrote: and if any of you utter fools knew anything of my path

If you are so solid on your path ? then why even come here ? I know many a christian that are devout and the last place they would want to be hanging around is on a site that is contradictory to their beliefs.

Also... "utter fools" .... why then waste your superior intellect on us idiots ??

Mortose wrote: Dispelling ignorance? Raising ideas?

What ignorance ?? ignorance of the darker side of life ?? I've been there, seen and done it in my time and the only thing I found ignorance in was myself... I was ignorant of how much of a complete t*sser I had become.... ignorant of the beauty around me I was missing in my incessant need to sate my own boredom and what I used to percieve as a tedious existence.

You can rest safe in the knowledge that I am far from ignorant in matters of both sides of the spectrum.
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On a finishing note, as a Knight and member of the Clergy here at TotJO I can't help but worry about what sort of things go on with the sith teachings etc... I've seen a good few vulnerable people here that could be easily led, the rules regarding teaching here at TotJO are (I believe) in place to protect those that are vulnerable.

I am in no way saying you were trying to manipulate anyone, or making any accusations (I just want to make that clear) ... my point is the rules are in place for a reason and as such should be adhered to by all.

Leandros Von wrote:
On a finishing note, as a Knight and member of the Clergy here at TotJO I can't help but worry about what sort of things go on with the sith teachings etc... I've seen a good few vulnerable people here that could be easily led, the rules regarding teaching here at TotJO are (I believe) in place to protect those that are vulnerable.

I am in no way saying you were trying to manipulate anyone, or making any accusations (I just want to make that clear) ... my point is the rules are in place for a reason and as such should be adhered to by all.

If people are careless and foolish enough to invest themselves in any dark path without first knowing the price(s), they deserve what happens to them.

Mortose wrote:

However, what is more of interest is how did my writing make you feel? What did it stir... if anything, within you?

That is not teaching, it is being curious outside of private communication and desiring the temple to be the source of the lesson, not myself. You know, giving the light a chance to pick my apprentice out of my claws? Offer him "salvation" and the like?

And how is that not teaching within itself? If he was interested in salvation he would be looking for it. Nothing we say or do is going to change his mind or opinion. Putting him in a position of having to "defend" his position as your pupil is still instruction on your part...a lesson you (not the temple or the council) wants him to learn and experience.