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16 Jan 2014 12:11 #133498 by steamboat28

RyuJin wrote: ...and we all know how christianity views women....

Not inherently.

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16 Jan 2014 12:52 #133503 by
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Eve coerced Adam into eating the apple. Women were painted as manipulative sinners since the beginning.

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16 Jan 2014 13:41 #133505 by steamboat28

Naya wrote: Eve coerced Adam into eating the apple. Women were painted as manipulative sinners since the beginning.

That's one way of looking at it, but it isn't the only one. Besides, Christianity is less focused (or ought to be) on the pre-Christian teachings than they are what Christ taught. The only time you run into trouble in this context in the NT is when you find gross misinterpretations of the Pauline epistles.

But that's a discussion for another thread.

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16 Jan 2014 14:59 #133519 by
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steamboat28 wrote:

Naya wrote: Eve coerced Adam into eating the apple. Women were painted as manipulative sinners since the beginning.

That's one way of looking at it, but it isn't the only one. Besides, Christianity is less focused (or ought to be) on the pre-Christian teachings than they are what Christ taught. The only time you run into trouble in this context in the NT is when you find gross misinterpretations of the Pauline epistles.

But that's a discussion for another thread.


It's certainly not the only way of looking at it, but it's the popular view. My experiences with Christianity growing up is that girls and women are inherently evil and can't be trusted. I never believed that view myself and felt it completely perverted the entire concept of Christianity, but it is still a very common belief among many Christians, which leads to a lot of men feeling it's their place to keep women under thumb. There are entire Christian communities online and off based on that concept... and some of them even advocate using corporal punishment in order to keep their women in line. So from a religious standpoint, if not a societal one (at least modern society), I can see how this concept has been used to keep women in a subservient role.

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16 Jan 2014 16:25 #133527 by
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Responding to the original post: Now you know what you must change. Teach children (not even just yours) to question things, teach them to analyze, to care about figuring out the truth, eschew social scripts and be comfortable in their own skin. I have seen all the things you see, though I managed to stay out of that trapped system, and I plan to raise my kids to be wary of the world of scripts and symbols.

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16 Jan 2014 16:52 #133532 by
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America currently is a volunteer military. Has been since Vietnam. Culture is culture as culture does and it evolves. To say culture is breeding with a deliberate attempt is to say someone is in charge and directing culture. I'm a Boy Scout leader and we teach boys self relience, leadership and values. We don't make soldiers.

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16 Jan 2014 18:16 #133536 by
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Rickie The Grey wrote: America currently is a volunteer military. Has been since Vietnam.


I didn't volunteer to register for selective service when I turned 18. I was required to. The U.S. government can draft me into military service anytime they choose. Just because they haven't since Vietnam doesn't mean they won't in the future. That is just one small reason why I am incredibly grateful for those that do volunteer for service.

Rickie The Grey wrote: I'm a Boy Scout leader and we teach boys self reliance, leadership and values. We don't make soldiers.


I'm an Eagle Scout, and I agree that the Boy Scouts do not make soldiers. However, the military does recognize that many skills taught to Boy Scouts are useful to soldiers as well, and they tend to target these boys for recruitment once they turn 18. Just my experience though.

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16 Jan 2014 18:17 - 16 Jan 2014 18:21 #133537 by Kohadre

Rickie The Grey wrote: OP

America currently is a volunteer military. Has been since Vietnam. Culture is culture as culture does and it evolves. To say culture is breeding with a deliberate attempt is to say someone is in charge and directing culture. I'm a Boy Scout leader and we teach boys self relience, leadership and values. We don't make soldiers.


Since we aren't using usernames anymore.....or maybe even reading the entire topic....

Quoted poster,

You have your opinion and that's respectable. I was in the boy scouts, and am aware of what is taught within the program. I am also aware of the inner culture of the program, and how it discourages certain behaviors and encourages others.

So long and thanks for all the fish
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16 Jan 2014 20:30 #133552 by
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[quoteI am also aware of the inner culture of the program, and how it discourages certain behaviors and encourages others. ][/quote]

Please expand this because I don't recognize what your saying about an inner culture?

I didn't volunteer to register for selective service when I turned 18. I was required to


That's not the same as breeding.

[quote, the military does recognize that many skills taught to Boy Scouts are useful to soldiers][/quote]

as they are recognised for any other profession as well especially if you are an Eagle Scout. Employers love to see I was a Boy Scout and I am an Eagle Scout.

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16 Jan 2014 20:41 #133557 by steamboat28

Rickie The Grey wrote: I'm a Boy Scout leader and we teach boys self relience, leadership and values. We don't make soldiers.


But aren't those great qualities in soldiers? Aren't they easily adapted to the life of the military?

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