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09 Jan 2014 03:58 #132515 by Zenchi
This article shares some beliefs and theory's similar to Watt's interpretation of reality, thoughts anyone?
http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/scientists-claim-that-quantum-theory-proves-consciousness-moves-to-another-universe-at-death/

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09 Jan 2014 05:03 #132521 by
I personally think that things like Quantum Theory are a bit much. I feel that trying to explain stuff like that with "facts" is going about it the wrong way. Life is a personal journey, and if you choose to be spiritual it is a very personal situation. Some things are better left unexplained. Im sure people disagree with me, but that is the beauty of this place, we can agree to disagree.

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09 Jan 2014 05:19 #132525 by steamboat28
"Quantum Theory" has been utterly co-opted by pseudoscience as some kind of universal catch-all proof. It's obnoxious.
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09 Jan 2014 05:47 #132528 by RyuJin
The same could be said of any science in its beginnings...

Science was originally part of philosophy (as was religion)...then science was heavily used to prove religion (thomas aquinas and others) what makes quantum science any different?

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09 Jan 2014 05:58 - 09 Jan 2014 05:59 #132529 by steamboat28

RyuJin wrote: The same could be said of any science in its beginnings...

Science was originally part of philosophy (as was religion)...then science was heavily used to prove religion (thomas aquinas and others) what makes quantum science any different?


I guess I'd feel differently about it if more people who used QT as a basis for the metaphysical beliefs they hold actually understood what they were talking about. That's my main problem with "The Field," because the author has a tenuous grasp, at best, on what she's talking about--as though you're explaining complex machinery to a child, and then asking that child to explain it to another.

I have similar problems with many, many other belief systems. IMO, if you're going to have a belief system, you should know why you hold it, and that usually indicates some kind of fundamental theory on which you're basing the universe.

For example, I know a scad of new-agers whose answer to everything is "because crystals!" or "because vibrational frequencies!" Okay, but why do you believe crystals hold these powers? Why do you believe this resonance helps things? Explain to me why you're taking these things to mean what you are, and don't just adopt them because you read them in a book that gave you no explanation. If you don't know, tell me you don't know--that's fine. Ignorance is the first step to growth. But at least say something like "Ultimately, I believe in (a) god/ess/(e/s) that shaped the world the way it is today through emotion," or "I think Tolkien was onto something with that whole creating-the-world-from-song thing," or "I believe in a grand unified Force that holds all life in commonality."

Simply saying "because...quantum theory!" just shows me that you don't care enough about what you believe in to try to understand it the best you're able. And at that point, why bother believing in it?
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09 Jan 2014 05:59 #132530 by
Science was born from a desire to prove the existence of the divine. What makes any one branch of science more or less valid than another?

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09 Jan 2014 06:16 #132531 by RyuJin
For me who needs science to prove the divine? One needs only to look around at the many divine miracles that surround us...

From a single cell comes a multi cellular life form...and through the miracles of evolution and mutation, many life forms...each divine in its own way...

I love science...of all kinds...it's wonderful to see how things function...

I love philosophy...it's wonderful to consider all the possibilities...

With science we learn how to do things, with philosophy we learn if we should do things...

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09 Jan 2014 06:18 #132533 by
Just something to note: This is am eye doctor talking about neurology and calling it quantum physics. While most med schools require 1 year of collage level physicals it's safe to assume he does not have what we would call a full scientific grasp of quantum physics.

That being said there is some really cool stuff that happens in quantum physics that takes years to grasp an even elementary understanding. It's been talked about on these boards before ,but here is some videos for anyone new.

http://youtu.be/Ws6AAhTw7RA

http://youtu.be/zCUSXoL4SDE

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09 Jan 2014 13:43 #132557 by

RyuJin wrote: The same could be said of any science in its beginnings...

Science was originally part of philosophy (as was religion)...then science was heavily used to prove religion (thomas aquinas and others) what makes quantum science any different?


Thomas Aquinas did nothing for religion in terms of proof with science... Unless you're calling transubstantiation proof?? What he did here was make a completely absurd and BS theory to explain divine mystery which according to the very religion's theology could NOT be proven...
Thomas Aquinas was a crackpot whose views were refuted, debated and debunked at the very time of proposition. Even franciscan friars denounced his theory on immaculate lady ( St Bonaventure, on Mary)


I get your point, ryu but you literally picked on of the worst examples you could..

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09 Jan 2014 15:30 - 09 Jan 2014 15:31 #132562 by
A theory is an attempt to explain. It doesn't prove anything. It's a belief, a generally acepted belief but not proven..........

kind of like religion. ;) :)
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