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06 Jan 2014 16:59 - 06 Jan 2014 17:06 #132157
by steamboat28
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TotJO Member Records. was created by steamboat28
Partly because of MCSH's
project in another thread
, and partly because I have a strong desire and curiosity about the ever-developing history of the Temple, I just spent an hour or two combing through the Announcements board to try to piece together every Master/Apprentice relationship I could find, record all the Knighting Ceremony dates I could get my hands, on, ordination ceremonies, everything.
WHAT I HAVE:
WHAT I DON'T HAVE:
If you have any information, or if your name doesn't appear in one of the lists you think it should, reply on here or shoot me a pm, and I'll get it added.
Thanks for your help!
WHAT I HAVE:
Warning: Spoiler!
- Apprenticeship dates and training master information for:
Warning: Spoiler!- Aceboizor
- AdamH312
- Adder
- Adhara
- Adservio
- Alan
- Alexandre Orion
- Angelus
- Arcade
- Archon
- Brenna
- Connor Lidell
- Cynthia
- DanWerts
- Darren
- Elizabeth
- Fennan
- Florian
- Garwa Mayharr
- Gisteron
- Hellisforhorses
- Hypatia
- Jacen Solo
- Jestor
- Kalkho
- Karn
- Kohadre
- Krazykoyote
- Leandros Von
- Learn_To_Know
- Leena
- MCSH
- meatloaf
- Metsu Desal
- Naya
- PB9528
- PcoronoF
- Phortis Nesphin
- Plo Koon
- Proteus
- Psyddhattha
- Raikoutenshi
- Reacher
- Red Lila
- Reliah
- Revan
- Rosalyn J
- RyuJin
- SeanChing
- Slydogtags
- Tberro
- Trose
- V-Tog
- Viskhard
- Wendaline
- Wescli_Wardest
- Zenchi
- Knighthood dates for:
Warning: Spoiler!- Adder
- Adhara
- Akkarin
- Alexandre Orion
- Angelus
- Cynthia
- Damion_Storm
- Desolous
- Jestor
- Karn
- Leandros Von
- LTK
- Phortis Nesphin
- Reliah
- Wescli_Wardest
- Sr. Knight dates for:
Warning: Spoiler!- Damion_Storm
- Master dates for:
Warning: Spoiler!- Damion_Storm
- Jasper_Ward
- Ordination dates for:
Warning: Spoiler!- Alexandre Orion (Deacon, Bishop)
- Damion_Storm (Bishop)
- Jasper_Ward (Deacon, Priest, Bishop)
- Jestor (Deacon, Priest, Bishop)
- Phortis Nesphin (Deacon)
- RyuJin (Priest)
- V-Tog (Deacon)
- Miscellaneous information for:
Warning: Spoiler!- Damion_Storm (B.Div)
- V-Tog (VP Clerical, Council appointment)
WHAT I DON'T HAVE:
- Anything before 2010
- Literally anything else.
If you have any information, or if your name doesn't appear in one of the lists you think it should, reply on here or shoot me a pm, and I'll get it added.
Thanks for your help!
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Last edit: 06 Jan 2014 17:06 by steamboat28.
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06 Jan 2014 17:21 - 06 Jan 2014 17:34 #132160
by MCSH
Master: Wescli Wardest
Clerical Mentor : Master Jestor
Rank: Apprentice
Clerical Rank: Licensed Minister
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Good job:-)
Edit:
I tried to look for archives... they were where I got most of my information from. I couldn't find them.. not sure if they have moved somewhere or... I've lost my way around temple.
Edit:
I tried to look for archives... they were where I got most of my information from. I couldn't find them.. not sure if they have moved somewhere or... I've lost my way around temple.
Master: Wescli Wardest
Clerical Mentor : Master Jestor
Rank: Apprentice
Clerical Rank: Licensed Minister
Last edit: 06 Jan 2014 17:34 by MCSH.
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06 Jan 2014 17:49 - 06 Jan 2014 17:50 #132164
by Ben
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Some of the missing clergy info can be found in the Clergy Announcements section:
http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/136-Announcements
http://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/136-Announcements
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06 Jan 2014 17:57 #132167
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Thanks for taking the time to put this together, Steamboat. I for one will find the info very interesting

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07 Jan 2014 21:11 #132293
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I got a decent amount of clerical information from the Clergy link V-Tog posted, and I plan on going back through both boards later to ensure that I have the information correct, and to try to get consistent dates--many of the dates I posted in the beginning of this thread were announcement dates, but I'd prefer ceremony dates where I can find them.
I've uploaded this information into a Google Drive spreadsheet that I'll continue to update. It can only be viewed through the link posted below.
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In addition to this, I have at least two other formats planned for this information, but if you click that link and find something missing that you have knowledge of, please pm me. I'd love to make this as complete as possible.
Still lacking any information prior to 2010, and still missing lots of folks I know have reached a rank, so it'll be a looong road. Still, will be fun.
I've uploaded this information into a Google Drive spreadsheet that I'll continue to update. It can only be viewed through the link posted below.
Part of the message is hidden for the guests. Please log in or register to see it.
In addition to this, I have at least two other formats planned for this information, but if you click that link and find something missing that you have knowledge of, please pm me. I'd love to make this as complete as possible.
Still lacking any information prior to 2010, and still missing lots of folks I know have reached a rank, so it'll be a looong road. Still, will be fun.
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07 Jan 2014 21:37 #132296
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My Senior Knighthood was 12 Mar 2012
The A.Div is granted upon Knighthood so it's the same date.
The A.Div is granted upon Knighthood so it's the same date.
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07 Jan 2014 21:53 #132298
by Jestor
On walk-about...
Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....
"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching
Rite: PureLand
Former Memeber of the TOTJO Council
Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter
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Many of us senior members were 'field promoted', meaning we did not have ceremonies, and do not have the proof (documentation) so many of the current members have...
Damion Storm, who joined not long after me, is probably the most documented member, lol...
Akkarin might give him a run for his money, maybe RyuJin too, lol...
DOCUMENTED, not necessarily able to find posts, I mean as announcements and whatnot...
Like any organization, we who have helped create what you see, are unpedigreed, lol, we have our life stories, and lessons learned, but the internet is not big enough to include every lesson we learned...
Perhaps when the day comes I step down from council, I will redo the IP... (lol, you guys have no idea how often I do it mentally, lololol... And, the lessons and points of view I get from reading of your adventures...)
Back on point...
TO create TOTJO, and give it legitimacy, we have tried to curtail the 'field promotions', mine and 666 being two of the last I believe... And that happened in 2010...
MArk, Ren, to mention but two, and the last two to step down from council, also wanted legitimacy, and we strived to make criteria... Which is extremely difficult with a 'life path' such as this...
The hardest thing, was telling others, that their life experience, or work at another organization no longer counts toward our system, its really tough telling folks that....
But, in the interest of totjo, it was for the best... Everyone started from scratch once records and the systems cogs started gelling...
Damion Storm, who joined not long after me, is probably the most documented member, lol...
Akkarin might give him a run for his money, maybe RyuJin too, lol...
DOCUMENTED, not necessarily able to find posts, I mean as announcements and whatnot...
Like any organization, we who have helped create what you see, are unpedigreed, lol, we have our life stories, and lessons learned, but the internet is not big enough to include every lesson we learned...
Perhaps when the day comes I step down from council, I will redo the IP... (lol, you guys have no idea how often I do it mentally, lololol... And, the lessons and points of view I get from reading of your adventures...)
Back on point...
TO create TOTJO, and give it legitimacy, we have tried to curtail the 'field promotions', mine and 666 being two of the last I believe... And that happened in 2010...

MArk, Ren, to mention but two, and the last two to step down from council, also wanted legitimacy, and we strived to make criteria... Which is extremely difficult with a 'life path' such as this...
The hardest thing, was telling others, that their life experience, or work at another organization no longer counts toward our system, its really tough telling folks that....

But, in the interest of totjo, it was for the best... Everyone started from scratch once records and the systems cogs started gelling...
On walk-about...
Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....
"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching
Rite: PureLand
Former Memeber of the TOTJO Council
Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter
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07 Jan 2014 21:57 #132299
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There's nothing wrong with starting something that way. It's how most organizations (including many kingdoms!) have started throughout history. If that's the case, I just need to get my hands on enough information to make a list of those folks, and we'll put some kind of note in the text, and we'll move on with life.Jestor wrote: <Jestor's very intersting and historically cool post>

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08 Jan 2014 05:28 #132351
by RyuJin
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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Ah....my knighthood and sr. Knighthood both came towards the end of 2009...october or november I think but I don't remember for certain...I had completed the ip and done an apprenticeship under br. John then kana seiko haruki...there was no degree system or clerical system in place back then...I have also completed the degree system to b.div and completed the clerical to the requirements for m.div at a time during its transition into its current form...due to the new requirements for m.div it's no longer completed....like jestor pointed out, a handful of us are very documented now...and the learning never stops...you'd have to find my old training journal to get a close estimate of the dates...and its buried deep in the forums....usually takes me a couple days of digging to unearth it....
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There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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12 Jan 2014 03:39 #132896
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Outside of personal messages to me and replies to this thread, is there anywhere I can start looking for some of this pre-2010 information? Are any of the older versions of the site archived anywhere? Is there anybody that might have any kind of (semi-)official record of this sort of thing?
My interest in this has gone beyond mere curiosity at this point; noticing that TOTJO (in its present form) has very little in the way of historical documentation, especially in regard to these training lineages, has become a point of intellectual zeal for me. In order to understand where we are, we need to understand where we have been, and the compilation of such histories will go a long way toward transparency, toward learning from the past for members who weren't there to live it, and to cement our legitimacy toward complete outsiders (which will have the added benefit of making the public image of Jedi and Jediism better, TOTJO or not).
My interest in this has gone beyond mere curiosity at this point; noticing that TOTJO (in its present form) has very little in the way of historical documentation, especially in regard to these training lineages, has become a point of intellectual zeal for me. In order to understand where we are, we need to understand where we have been, and the compilation of such histories will go a long way toward transparency, toward learning from the past for members who weren't there to live it, and to cement our legitimacy toward complete outsiders (which will have the added benefit of making the public image of Jedi and Jediism better, TOTJO or not).
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