Clairvoyance and Extra-Sensory Perception- Is This real?

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05 Nov 2013 04:13 #123683 by
Clairvoyance and Extra-Sensory Perception- Is This Real?

I have seen recently that as I have meditated and reflected upon myself and all around me, I have seemed to be able to predict things way before they happen. Am I merely making lucky guesses, having simple intuitions, or am I connected to something bigger?

This is something that has perplexed me for the past few weeks and caused considerable concern. This started with smaller things like which direction a conversation would go before it started, or what kind of move an opponent would make in two moves in a game of chess. Then this intuitive streak developed into larger things like predicting a train would come through and make me almost late for my SAT, and predicting that my friend would die (turns out it was today, and I'm quite frankly still rattled, it may be why I decided to write this). Now again, I was curious to find out if this phenomena I am experiencing is a common thing. The type of "Clairvoyance" I am apparently feeling at this time is known as Claircognizance which translates to,"Knowing clearly."

I am doing more research into how people are able to see what others do not, how people can sense or feel things that most human beings don't feel but five minutes to hours later. This is an interesting subject to me and I'd love to have someone else's input on this interesting turn of events.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance

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05 Nov 2013 04:27 #123686 by
BF skinner would tell you that you're noticing when your right about things and forgetting ever time your wrong. You'd also be amazed at how much information your subconscious reads and feeds to you as a gut feeling.

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05 Nov 2013 05:32 - 05 Nov 2013 05:34 #123688 by Adder
I think it might be possible, from my own experiences I think it is. I've seen too much accurate pre-visions to pretend it is not. I remain skeptical as a matter of technique to force higher levels of quality control but perhaps the mind can be somehow sensitive to the extra information the subconscious receives by our sensory organs which is not passed into the conscious awareness normally.

In which case some people perhaps are born able to process and perceive it easily... while hopefully with others it can be trained to various extents.

It would be nice to think we could focus the power of the brain in some way to create some 'meta-sense' by fusing all the data from all the senses together without filtering and have access to it. I'd imagine the 'third eye' is the imaginary organ which could access this.

For me this is accessing that more raw product generated by the subconscious mind and I've personally noticed that only the things which turn out to be true tend to make me take notice before they happen. I personally disassociate this from any concept of an external god because the type of success would seem to be more about the nature of my relationship to my subconscious and environmental circumstances at the time, then any particular established religious moral or culture... but I keep my options open
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The problem is the stuff I've experienced is not explained by our normal senses, so its either spiritual in nature or just a really high level of information is being carried around in the 'noise' out there which our brains are able to parse out and interpret under certain circumstances.

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05 Nov 2013 05:43 #123689 by RyuJin
One possibility is that at a subconscious level we're using experience, intellect,and various sensory input in combination to calculate the most likely outcome of any situation...

Or possibly that through meditation and training we're opening our minds and senses and using them to their full extent....

I predict events so often that I'm seldom surprised by anything anymore...and I often "creep out" people with my accuracy....

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05 Nov 2013 05:45 #123690 by
I actually wrote about this today in my journal. I've had a theory for years that most people I've shared it with mostly just look at me funny. For me, everything always relates back to energy. Every action, thought, whatever, creates energy. Energy has patterns. The way I see how clairvoyance and precognition works is that it is based more on an ability to see patterns in energy, than an ability to see into the near or far future.

Have you ever heard someone say that the definition to insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results?

That's because if you do something the same way each time, it's going to create the same result. The action is the energy... the result is the pattern created by the energy. The ability to see the future is the ability to read these patterns and decipher the resulting outcome. Unless someone changes the action or their decision, the pattern remains the same. If it changes, the pattern changes and so does the outcome.

So yes, I believe it's very real, but I also do not believe it's some mystical power. It's something anyone can learn to do, but some people just happen to be born with the talent. Just like people are born with musical talent or art talent, but anyone can learn how to play music or draw.

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05 Nov 2013 10:16 #123699 by Gisteron
Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. If you mean something other than energy, use a word other than energy; that's how language operates - a word for its meaning and another one for a different one.
Also, if you have no pitch hearing, your chances to learn to make music well are negligible unless you go for the new age definition of music that is equivalent to 'sound' or 'noise'.
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Now, to answer the topic: No, its not real. As Vesha pointed out, most of it is probably confirmation bias, but just in case its not, predicting one of the few good moves someone can make in a game of chess isn't that unlikely of an event, and it is even easier if you know the person or played chess with her before; same thing goes for conversations. Predicting time closure when you know the time is also not that big of a deal, and as for death... well, sometimes coincidences happen and sometimes we know who is going to be on what road or at what trip.

In the end, what I'm saying is, there are things that are predictable and there are lucky guesses, too. Now, the moment you can reliably, consistently and with a minimal margin of error accurately predict things you have no prior knowledge about and without simultaneous knowledge input or that are unpredictable by nature for all we know, that's the moment you have something worth investigating and winning a one million USD price from the James Randi Educational Foundation along with several other prices .

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05 Nov 2013 10:38 - 05 Nov 2013 10:39 #123701 by Avalon
I have found myself, when I was younger, noticing a connection between the dreams I had (and could remember) and events which eventually happened. Some were almost exact replicas of the dreams and gave me a very big sense of deja vu, while others were a bit more symbolic in nature, but still true all the same. Some were extremely trivial things, and others ended up being extremely life changing. I did always notice that it was the dreams that were vividly clear that were the ones which eventually ended up coorelating to a real life event. One such event was when I was around 10 or so and dreamt of going to a gym. About four years later, after having moved three or four times, I went to that exact (down to what was where inside the gym and the sculpture out front) gym, in an entirely different state. Other instances have been dreaming about the loss of family members within a few weeks of their death. I knew before my parents did that we would be moving to Colorado because of one such dream. And while I didn't realize it at the time, I knew that I would be 'losing' my mother about a year before she became seriously disabled. Obviously, it's not the same as a death, but in a sense, I did lose her the way she was, though gained her the way she is now. And for a young child, it was pretty significant.

Whether this is what you're asking about, or these events were merely coincidence, I can't tell you. My personal feeling is that when I have a dream which I remember so clearly and vividly as those dreams which I've mentioned above, I pay careful attention to them and treat them as a gift, or a warning depending on the context. Then again, it's been nearly 10 years since it last happened (that I currently know of). Still, I could simply be seeing something existing in nothing at all and making conclusions were none are to be made. Just my two cents on the matter.

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05 Nov 2013 10:49 #123704 by Whyte Horse

Adder wrote: I think it might be possible, from my own experiences I think it is. I've seen too much accurate pre-visions to pretend it is not. I remain skeptical as a matter of technique to force higher levels of quality control but perhaps the mind can be somehow sensitive to the extra information the subconscious receives by our sensory organs which is not passed into the conscious awareness normally.

In which case some people perhaps are born able to process and perceive it easily... while hopefully with others it can be trained to various extents.

It would be nice to think we could focus the power of the brain in some way to create some 'meta-sense' by fusing all the data from all the senses together without filtering and have access to it. I'd imagine the 'third eye' is the imaginary organ which could access this.

For me this is accessing that more raw product generated by the subconscious mind and I've personally noticed that only the things which turn out to be true tend to make me take notice before they happen. I personally disassociate this from any concept of an external god because the type of success would seem to be more about the nature of my relationship to my subconscious and environmental circumstances at the time, then any particular established religious moral or culture... but I keep my options open
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The problem is the stuff I've experienced is not explained by our normal senses, so its either spiritual in nature or just a really high level of information is being carried around in the 'noise' out there which our brains are able to parse out and interpret under certain circumstances.

Your brain is a neural network capable of predictive algorithms. The more you learn and experience the world, the more accurate it becomes

The biggest problem is random/unforseen events. These can completely change an outcome so the more your prediction can be influenced by random events, the less accurate your predictions will be.

I have a prediction: You will wake up tomorrow after you go to sleep.

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05 Nov 2013 16:31 #123746 by

OrvisOrenn wrote: Clairvoyance and Extra-Sensory Perception- Is This Real?

I have seen recently that as I have meditated and reflected upon myself and all around me, I have seemed to be able to predict things way before they happen. Am I merely making lucky guesses, having simple intuitions, or am I connected to something bigger?

This is something that has perplexed me for the past few weeks and caused considerable concern. This started with smaller things like which direction a conversation would go before it started, or what kind of move an opponent would make in two moves in a game of chess. Then this intuitive streak developed into larger things like predicting a train would come through and make me almost late for my SAT, and predicting that my friend would die (turns out it was today, and I'm quite frankly still rattled, it may be why I decided to write this). Now again, I was curious to find out if this phenomena I am experiencing is a common thing. The type of "Clairvoyance" I am apparently feeling at this time is known as Claircognizance which translates to,"Knowing clearly."

I am doing more research into how people are able to see what others do not, how people can sense or feel things that most human beings don't feel but five minutes to hours later. This is an interesting subject to me and I'd love to have someone else's input on this interesting turn of events.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance


Yes and it a natural ability just as some people: hear better, smell better, are more intelligent, see better and are stronger, some are sensitive beyond the range of average our senses. At this stage in our evolution it isn't controlable or reliably predictable but when it happens it is unmistakable.

Those that don't have this sensitivity and or choose to not believe fall back on science to disprove it but I say not everything can be explained/proved by science. ;)

We are so much more than we know! That's exciting and worth reflecting/meditating on. :)

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05 Nov 2013 16:41 #123750 by
Harmony to all of you,

I am very pleased to see such a reply to my post and have enjoyed reading your responses. I appreciate Gisteron (forgive if I misspell) and their take on the skeptical side of the subject. I myself am just as skeptical though still searching. The one thing that tugs at me is the death of my friend being so easily put into the forefront of my intuition and being carried out by an outside force beyond my knowledge or control.

I agree with the minds here that see this as a "flow of energy" though, because I believe that the entire universe, all it's inhabitants, and all that surrounds us overall is made up of energy. Now the use of that energy being towards the aims of seeing into the future? I do not think one can willingly see things like that. I choose to believe that these things come to us only when we are connected to the universal energies around us somehow. But of course, this is all mere speculation and theory for me. I am still a child in a sense because I am merely 18 and still lack the experience to call some things for what they are.

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