Help regarding an assignment.

Namaste.

Over at totjf my current assignment is to come up with 3 questions,realting to one another on a subject i would like to know about.So after some meditation and me unable to answer these questions i am left with.

1)Why do you believe some people commit horrific crimes? murder,rape ect

2)What part of their being in your opnion controls this part of them? Minf,body,spirit.

3)Do you think these could be controlled by medication,counciling ect.

After this i was asked to aak 20 people there opinions/thoughts on these,so if you have some spate time and willing to offer yoyr views,not matter what there are would be greatly apprecited.

Are these questions meant to be intentionally open ended? I am wondering because if this is done for an assignment would you prefer that the questions be more specific?

Just because the answers that you will receive are broadly going to coincide with:

"Well sometimes it's the body/mind/spirit and this can be cured by a combination of medication and counselling but it depends on the circumstance. Each time will be different for each person."

I am not saying that is an especially bad answer, and it is not incorrect, but questions that are more limited in their scope might yield more in depth answers that explore a greater variation of possibilities rather than the rather bland sorts of answers that one can receive (that I showed above).

This is only my observation

Poy Starous wrote: Namaste.

Over at totjf my current assignment is to come up with 3 questions,realting to one another on a subject i would like to know about.So after some meditation and me unable to answer these questions i am left with.

1)Why do you believe some people commit horrific crimes? murder,rape ect

They are crazy and out of touch with reality


2)What part of their being in your opnion controls this part of them? Minf,body,spirit.

Brain chemicals

these could be controlled by medication,counciling ect.

At this stage of horror proabably not

After this i was asked to aak 20 people there opinions/thoughts on these,so if you have some spate time and willing to offer yoyr views,not matter what there are would be greatly apprecited.

1)Why do you believe some people commit horrific crimes? murder,rape ect
Delusional view of reality to play a caricature, derived from their fear of failure in society... so they can hide from real responsibility and feed off base level animal instincts instead.

2)What part of their being in your opnion controls this part of them? Minf,body,spirit.
Depends what 'spirit' means to you. Together with mind and body it implies to me will to act - then all of them. Otherwise if I was to merge mind into body, and consider some supernatural soul... then my answer would still be body. I personally think any supernatural soul that was twisted like that would incarnate as a more applicable animal form instead of a human.

3)Do you think these could be controlled by medication,counciling ect.
Well we know for sure you can remove it from them, by destroying brain function and making them a vegetable. There is no real zombies running around that I have seen so I think we can discount a supernatural possession which overpowers the function of the flesh!! I imagine more targeted medicine should eventually be able to narrow down to specific treatments. The problem with the brain is each persons neural networks are individually programmed - so while general areas share the same functions in humans, at the neuronal level function must be determined on a person by person basis. Chemical treatments are usually very broad in their application so work only on larger areas which brings lots of side effects, but there are other treatments around, such as inserted probes which can influence smaller areas with less side effects. Technology should in the future improve to a point where people will fine tune brain operation for maximal performance and happiness, at which time it would probably seem completely illogical to commit such crimes and subsequently disappear from society (best case scenario!). In the meantime different treatments might work for different people, but it most likely comes down to the person taking responsibility for their own health and actively working towards self betterment.

1)Why do you believe some people commit horrific crimes? murder,rape ect

Very complicated reasons. Someone's actions could be equally said to be that of a murderer or that of a freedom fighter. So it's down to:
-everything that has ever influenced the criminal.
-everything that has ever influenced the people who defined the crime as such.

2)What part of their being in your opnion controls this part of them? Minf,body,spirit.

Can these parts ever be separated? All three.

3)Do you think these could be controlled by medication,counciling ect.

The easiest way to control people is through fear. Yet, even in places where a crime (say rape) is severely punished (beheading), rape still occurs. Arguably, the incidents are rare, but if the most effective way of controlling someone is not effective enough, I doubt counselling and drugs would be helpful.

1)Why do you believe some people commit horrific crimes? murder,rape etc

In some way they feel less bound by the social and ethical norms that most of us adhere to. In my mind this takes me back to a recurring question that I generally spend far too much time pondering - is there any such thing as right and wrong? You say the crimes are 'horrific'. I agree with you, on an instinctive personal level. But perhaps the person who commits them does not see them as 'horrific' at all. Who determines that we are right and they are wrong? We ourselves determine it, unless you believe there to be a divine moral code of some sort...

I'm not sure I have really answered the question yet...I think maybe it is about coping mechanisms. I have this idea that everything we do in life is a coping mechanism (sometimes reactive, but often preventative) - we do what we believe will make us happy, and will keep bad stuff at bay - maybe people who commit horrible crimes have their own bad stuff going on and the only way that they can deal with it is to take it out on someone else. This is where it comes back to morals - most of us would never consider using violent crime as a coping mechanism, because we have been conditioned to believe that they are evil deeds that are never excusable. Interesting many people often do seem to feel as though they need to do something destructive in order to cope with life but they would rather harm themselves than someone else - examples are excessive smoking, alcoholism, eating disorders, other destructive habits... So maybe those who commit crimes just think that if they have to do something destructive, it's better to act out of self-preservation and harm someone else than themselves. There's a certain twisted sort of logic in it.

2)What part of their being in your opnion controls this part of them? Minf,body,spirit.

As Ren said, all three are deeply bound together. The spirit is the cornerstone...when the spirit is hurt, it calls the mind and the body into play - you know how when you feel really stressed or upset about something there are usually physical effects? You might sweat, shake, feel really tired or ill, short of breath, increased or fluctuating pulse, etc...the mind then really sits up and takes notice and starts running through potential ways of eliminating the problem, to make ourselves feel better. Sometimes people commit bad deeds as a result of lashing out on impulse, and there could be an argument for saying that the mind doesn't have much to do with it at all...but other times such deeds are very calculated and thought-out. As I said above, I can imagine that to some people it could seem quite logical to carry out violent acts.

3)Do you think these could be controlled by medication,counciling ect.

It depends very much on the individual person. I think the main factor in whether such things might help is upbringing, and the extent to which the lack of 'normal' morals is ingrained. If someone has reached their twenties or thirties and has never lived according to the same moral code as everyone else, it's going to be very hard to change, no matter what support you give them. Others might have committed their crimes as a result of a specific trigger - mental or physical illness, in which case medication might well help, or a mental trauma, which can sometimes be rectified through counselling. There is no one-size-fits-all.

ren wrote:

1)Why do you believe some people commit horrific crimes? murder,rape ect

Very complicated reasons. Someone's actions could be equally said to be that of a murderer or that of a freedom fighter. So it's down to:
-everything that has ever influenced the criminal.
-everything that has ever influenced the people who defined the crime as such.

2)What part of their being in your opnion controls this part of them? Minf,body,spirit.

Can these parts ever be separated? All three.

3)Do you think these could be controlled by medication,counciling ect.

The easiest way to control people is through fear. Yet, even in places where a crime (say rape) is severely punished (beheading), rape still occurs. Arguably, the incidents are rare, but if the most effective way of controlling someone is not effective enough, I doubt counselling and drugs would be helpful.

The only way to control people is to restrict their: food, water and air.

They are waht they are, they do what they do. The same for the police officer that arrests them, the councilor who talks to them, the doctor who prescribes this or that...

You can spend an aweful lot of time looking for trends but the bare bones truth is we're all different, every single one of us, and there is a million and more reasons we do what we do.

One of the reasons I choose to act respectfully, from the youngest child to the eldest senior, is that pretty much any of them could stab a pencil through my eye into my brain and it only takes a moment of madness to trigger it.

Poy Starous wrote: Namaste.

Over at totjf my current assignment is to come up with 3 questions,realting to one another on a subject i would like to know about.So after some meditation and me unable to answer these questions i am left with.

Why are you unable to answer? You might not be able to answer with a definite answer, the, "answer to end all answers", but, like the rest of us, surley you have opinions...

1)Why do you believe some people commit horrific crimes? murder,rape ect

Because they are "off" by society's standards.,

2)What part of their being in your opnion controls this part of them? Minf,body,spirit.

No control, or little control at all...

This is giving in to the animalistic side of ourselves....

3)Do you think these could be controlled by medication,counciling ect.

To some degree, im sure...

But deep self examination, meditation, might go a long way toward fixing the issue..

After this i was asked to aak 20 people there opinions/thoughts on these,so if you have some spate time and willing to offer yoyr views,not matter what there are would be greatly apprecited.

Im thinking this might work better, in person, with the give-and-take of a conversation....

Of course, its not my homework...:lol:...

I am also going to add, that asking a bunch of wanna-be, philosophical gurus isn't really a way to nail down an answer... :lol:...