Online pornography to be blocked by default (UK)

As society and technology advances, some things should be revisited or visited for the first time, to see if they are protected under a “right.”

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness… these are the things I feel are most important. But, when one person’s pursuit of happiness infringes on the happiness of others how do you maintain the peace?

This is a more extreme example, but it may illustrate what I’m getting at….
If there is a group of one hundred people and fifteen percent of them claim they have a right to molest cattle, should they have that right? Even if it only bothers twenty percent of the other eighty five people? How do we know the cattle even mind?

Most societies put into practice a set of guidelines and laws that regulate the conduct of it’s citizens. These are normally put in place by the majority or representatives of the majority. So if a few don’t like it, should the others bend to tolerate their wants? I mean, isn’t being a part of a society adhering to the regulations in place to govern? And if something is outdated or not adequately addressed, should we not bring it to the attention of those governing and set either a new precedent or at least evaluate the validity of the precedent in place?

I know places where there it's perfectly legal.

Everything is sick form a certain point of view. YOu can show your cattle some "love" and mollest it, or show it some "love" and eat its flesh. perv vs bloodthirsty killer. Just sayin.

ren wrote: I know places where there it's perfectly legal..

YUCK! :ohmy:

when you sacrify a bit of your freedom for a bit of security, you get neither of the two

I don't remember who said that, but he was sooooooo right

well, you may get one or the other, but deserve neither. and it was benjamin franklin. one of my favorite quotes of his.

Rickie The Grey wrote:

ren wrote: I know places where there it's perfectly legal..

YUCK! :ohmy:

The US only started prohibiting the practice less than 10 years ago. And not at federal level. In europe it's the same story. Zoophiles in brazil have more rights than homosexuals in the US.

I'll throw in my 2p as usual here and say that this is something that I followed a couple of years back with the violent pornography ban, Bizarre magazine did a lot of coverage on that and my missus used to subscribe to it, also Salvation films (who were the real company behind my bands label) had a lot of interest in it from the same perspective.

if you look at porn from an alt porn perspective you have things like bdsm, vampirism etc, the ban on violent pornography was very vague with it's terms on what would be deemed as violent.. so for instance if you made a home movie for yourself where yourself or your partner was tied up with a bit of light bondage that could be deemed violent in the eyes of some and you would be made a sex offender for having a bit of private fun in your own home with your partner and owning a video of the experience... it was ludicrous to say the least.

but the reason for it was to stop people committing violent sex crimes right ??, in my opinion there are probably a million perverts (who's judging) sitting at home right now that are happily sitting twiddling away at their joysticks behind their online identities watching a fake depiction of rape between consenting adults, because that's what floats their boats that will/would never ever go out and commit an act like that because they are happy to sit and keep it as a fantasy.... so what happens when you take that fantasy from them ??

then again you have to look at the other side in that then there may be child predators that are happy to never take it further than a bunch of sick pictures, but in order for those pictures to exist to stave the appetite of weirdo's at some point some form of abuse has to happen and you couldn't justify something like that.

but we're not really talking about that other than as an example to the point I am trying to make which is, unless it is completely illegal or abusive to someone, then I see no problem with porn in any way shape or form, it's been a while since I've browsed it myself in all honesty, but I'm not going to sit here and say "oh I never look at it" ... of course I do, I'm a man (live webcams are always fun pm me for links - lol **jk**) but yeah point is, regardless of amount of useage, or personal preferences / kinks, if I want to go and look at naked adults committing a consensual act then I don't see why my government should be allowed to dictate what I can and cannot look at (within reason).

and I don't think I should have to call up virgin media and confess to being in need of a little self indulgence in order to have a content lock removed from my service, "hello mr branson, yes this is lee the pervert from dundee, is it ok if I go watch some nudie flicks, my missus is out for the evening and i'm a little bored"

it's ludicrous.

it is the responsibility of parents to protect their children from the horrors of the internet, and if they don't have the time to be monitoring them then they shouldn't allow them on the WWW in the first place.

then again you have to look at the other side in that then there may be child predators that are happy to never take it further than a bunch of sick pictures, but in order for those pictures to exist to stave the appetite of weirdo's at some point some form of abuse has to happen and you couldn't justify something like that.

question to everyone (who is an adult): How would you feel about a perv/pedo getting off on pictures of you naked when you were a kid? Would it be the same as on a picture of your "old" self? Or would it be different?

ren wrote: question to everyone (who is an adult): How would you feel about a perv/pedo getting off on pictures of you naked when you were a kid? Would it be the same as on a picture of your "old" self? Or would it be different?

I'd first wonder where the pictures come from, if the pictures were taken innocently *like aww lets take a pic of lee in the bath* and some weirdo was sitting getting his/her kicks from that innocent picture rather than a child being abused for his/her process then I would rather they used my bathtime pics for their fulfilment as it saved a kid from being abused.

I however still disagree completely with the fact that someone finds a child at all attractive, someone who does clearly needs their head examined because there is something wrong with them, my son and nieces are the most beautiful creatures I ever laid eyes upon, they are magnificent in their own right, they are wondrous and imaginative creative little beings I fail to see where someone could find that sexually arousing in the slightest.

sorry that last rant was off topic but it makes my blood boil and I know I shouldn't let it, I am only an apprentice after all *still learning*

@ren - I don't know because it hasn't happened, but unless they become some kind of bizarre cult that keeps sending me PMs and dedicating printed underoos to my childish image, I likely wouldn't be upset at all. They aren't doing anything to me, really, just making up some fantasy in their head with a visual aid I was once upon a time involved with, willingly or no. Even if it WAS a cult, I'd be more upset about not seeing any of the profits being made from my image.

Now, one might say "Ew, rugadd thinks child pornography is okay!!" No, I think child pornography of me in particular, if it exists at all, isn't worth my time to be worried about. There will always be somebody somewhere with pictures of something that just shouldn't be. If my involvement might get them some psychiatric help or something I'm all about it, but the idea of some pajama wearing 500 pound pervert in a diaper playing da-da with his no-no parts isn't worth getting upset over. There are A LOT of them out there and no amount of affirmative action is gong to make it stop. Case in point, some of these guys use childrens magazines that anyone can buy at the store. A picture of a naked kid is not a bad thing. We've all had shots of us in the bathtub or running through the sprinkler on a hot summer day. It is what it can be used for that disturbs. The reason I'm not going on a crusade is because people can do an aweful lot in the privacy of their own home that I would consider disturbing and I would rather just not know.