Online pornography to be blocked by default (UK)

So the internet (at all) is a right?



Last time I checked, it was a privilege.

I found myself wondering about movies that depict similar things. Will those be banned as well?

And then I also started wondering why people aren't using parental controls or simply not letting their children be on the internet in the first place unsupervised? I'm not sure I understand why the government needs to parent and parents "let" them.. or sometimes even want them to. I suppose if people don't want to have to put any effort or thinking into anything...

I wonder if it might be that the majority can't be trusted to raise children into mature adults(whatever definition the upper echelons are using at any rate)...or that the undeveloped human mind will absorb like a sponge anything it comes into contact with regardless of its nature. Gardens need weeding. But then again, is it a weed? I've had many plants considered "weeds" pointed out to me by my loving wife as medicinal, or a source of certain vitamins and chemicals the body needs.

We only have what we have experienced.

What kinds of experiences have you collected?
What have you become because of them?
Are any of them experiences you would remove from the table as far as what you would be willing to let your children go through?

I don't agree with this law. It is asking the laws of society to raise your child, not you.

Offtopic: SHould I be wearing a fez and bowtie?

Does the government need to pass laws to protect children from porno?

Not that's right but unrestraid sesual exposure is all around kids. Juust watch a few: movies, videos, games and some advertisments.

there is no way to control porn. no matter what people will find a way to get it. If something is illegal people will always find away. it just adds to the fun of getting it.

Lol. I've been on the internet since a young age, and back then, the best we'd get online was 256 colors if we were lucky, 320x200 was full screen... Videos were unheard of... So we'd get it elsewhere. I could get some at 10 and we didnt have any in the house. Government passing useless feel good legislation: check.

I'm more concerned about violence and embellishment of it in movies, games, everything.

Connor Lidell wrote: So the internet (at all) is a right?

Last time I checked, it was a privilege.

this has been bothering me, cuz wes said something like this too. i almost got out of bed last night and wrote this, thats how much it has been bothering me.

what is a priviledge? it is defined as 'A special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to one person or group of people.'

what is a right? 'a just claim or title, whether legal, prescriptive, or moral.'

here, priviledge denotes someone or something ALLOWING you to do this or do that. you are under that things power. in this case, it is the governments. where the reverse should be truer in a more perfect world. the gov't is under OUR power, we the people continue to allow it to exist and continue to allow it to create more and more laws abridging our rights, skirt or ignore the same sets of laws when applicable toitself (im thinking 'illgal searches and seizures' brought to light in the snowden case lately. im sure you can think of a million more collectively).

the 'right' per this definition is legal, not of claim or title, and is created between me and whatever internet provider i have signed a contract with. it is not special, it is allowed to anyone with either the means to have a computer in their home and pay for access or that can obtain a library card. this guardian article goes into greater depth on the matter.

frankly, you already know the answer. imagine you are me, a small businessman in a highly competitive market. now imagine you have no access to the internet. you wont be in business long. so much is done over the internet, it has made things so convenient, that trying to go without it is simply not cost effective, and in many cases (like mine) flat impossible. access to it should not be restricted, it would be detrimental to most anyone i can think of (in fact, my elderly mother is the only one i know that does not use the computer at all). hell, i see a lot of the guys from my church homeless ministry at the library every time i go, almost always on the internet. how then should it NOT be a right?

so you may smirk, connor, and you may (whatever you did) wes, but yes, it is a right because i SAY it is a right, and would damn well fight over it, and so would billions of other sovereign citizens worldwide. and so would you, if someone tried to limit your access.

@ Desolous…
A clear definition of your understanding and expectations with a reasonable explanation of the reason behind your position… I can’t argue with that.

I still get annoyed with people claiming everything is their “right” with disregard toward the consequences of those claims. And the apparent lack of privilege’s earned from being a mature, responsible citizen of an established society, tends to lead me to question the motives behind desired freedoms. But I, as many others, have risked our lives so that “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances” to secure and exercise their “freedom of speech, or of the press”, we should not devalue the views of those who express them. And I would hate to see those suppressed now.

After further thoughts, I think this law may backfire. I think most people will not want to tell their ISP "please enable porn on my connection"... It's a privacy issue. What if social services get access to that information? Remember the guy who told the police he found some suspicious porn and ended up having his kid taken away by the council?

Those people will go pay for sex where questions don't get asked, cash in hand...