The mentality of "fighting" for peace

Raikoutenshi wrote: While killing is natural, human's seldom do it for the same reason animals do. I have yet to see an animal kill another animal without eating it, except in cases of self defense. Animals fight over territory also, that is true, and I've seen it between humans, but when the result of this interaction is the death of one individual involved the rest of society shuns the murderer. This is in human society and animal society.

Hehe, Yeah I was just kind of playing devils advocate. And I'm afraid I'm going to do it again.

Cats kill all the time for reasons besides self defense or hunger. They're a little bit sick like that...they're just lucky they're fuzzy and cute so they get away with it. Dogs also kill for sport (I know my dog use to like to wait and pounce on birds...but he never ate them). I'm sure if I looked it up I'd find a whole bunch more animals...like whatever was killing our chickens. There were bodies everywhere...none of them were eaten (oh and it wasn't the bird killing dog, he came into our family a lot later).

I guess my point is people are animals. We like to think we're evolved, but most of our decisions are based on animal instinct. Like fighting over a mate, resources, status, territory, etc. Even killing for sport. It's not unnatural and we do kill for many or all of the same reasons animals do. We just don't see it that way, because when we hear about a murder we instantly internalize it as bad...which it is, murderer is definitely not the polite thing to do...but is it really unnatural?

I was mostly just using the phrase natural means like the police use natural cause of death though. :laugh:

But yeah, I was taking your phrase out of context to run in a different direction. Not trying to pick on ya Just trying to stimulate discussion.

But maybe I'm getting off track. Could killing being natural or unnatural have anything to do with justifying murder to preserve peace?

I consider it natural. If people had to live truly understanding that anyone could just stab them in the eye with a screwdriver, we might be more inclined to be civil as a general rule and likely, we wouldn't be having a over population problem. I never understood this general fear of death we seem to have(and a survival instinct is not the same thing).