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Life is easy, why make it hard?

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28 Jun 2014 17:29 - 30 Jun 2014 02:00 #151365 by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21j_OCNLuYg

I came across the above video. I imagine he's Buddhist (he's from Thailand) but his insights are Epicureanism by another name, so this video is quite popular among the Epicureans. It's basically a sermon elaborating Philodemus' Third Cure: "the good is easy to attain". I think his arguments are very easy to follow and his insights are deep.
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28 Jun 2014 17:45 #151368 by
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The life he wants for himself is not the life others want themselves.

Fairly simple.

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30 Jun 2014 01:12 #151474 by
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Life is easy, why make it hard?

Yes. I agree. We have a sense of validation with "taking the challenge" and working through hardness. Its our "shadow" or "darkside" that enjoys our hardness.

It fuels all of our excuses. If life is "hard" then we can excuse anything. If life is easy, then I have no excusing and no suffering.

We are focused and bound by our "compassion" - take that away - how would we connect? Through the ease of the surrender to the Force?

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30 Jun 2014 08:49 #151492 by
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I've often wanted to live like that, but have no idea where to start. I know I can make it work for me, but I don't know how to make it work for my family. C'est la vie. :laugh:

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30 Jun 2014 10:02 #151494 by
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Hence, you answered the question most aptly.

Sounds more like a case for justifying that the grapes are sour in the video anyway.

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30 Jun 2014 21:09 - 30 Jun 2014 21:17 #151516 by Adder
In his example he preferred a more natural and rustic lifestyle but I don't think his experience is the point, just the context of the point.

I think he was talking about mindful action, being to align ones intention and action. Pointing out that when action occurs without healthy intention, the result will generally be unhealthy result. The relevance beyond his example is responsibility for ones action's are most rewarding when best aligned to that intention, and that responsibility in 'the West' is now perceived as a burden, yet responsibility can also, should, be rewarding.

So for fun, perhaps consider his use of the word 'light' better means the resonance between intention and action, instead of the 'low weight' interpretation which we carry from our 'western' interpretation of having less responsibility.

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01 Jul 2014 08:46 #151544 by ren
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01 Jul 2014 16:25 #151556 by
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To a certain extent I can appreciate where he's coming from. When I go camping I feel like a weight has been lifted when I turn off my phone and pack away my wallet and keys. Just sitting in nature and enjoying the simple things is a great detox for my mind. However, there is also a lot about my urban lifestyle that I wouldn't want to be without for too long and I'm always happy to come home after a few nights. I think life can be easy if you find the balance that is right for you regardless of what lifestyle you choose.

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01 Jul 2014 18:57 #151568 by
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Lol, life was not that easy, he just makes it sound like it.

Hunting and fishing takes work, so does water collection, etc.

Also, while it may have been commonly acceptable for women to "do all the work" (is hunting and fishing not work?) that would not fly today...

So should I blame my wife for not having an "easy" life?

Case in point with the guy in the video...School was hard for him, so he quit, well, fine, but some people get through there studies easily, some people have ambition, etc.

If you were to ask them if it was a hard or easy life they might give you at most a raised eyebrow.

Try really living off the land for a week, hell a month, not taking any modern conveniences or very,vety minimum. Build your own shelter, etc.

The indian may like to idealize that lifestyle, but it is indeed hard.

Im sure the medicine man was free, given what "medical training" consisted of.

That kind of life takes more work than what people do today.

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01 Jul 2014 19:53 #151570 by Jestor

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ren wrote:

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Lol, life was not that easy, he just makes it sound like it.

Hunting and fishing takes work, so does water collection, etc.

Also, while it may have been commonly acceptable for women to "do all the work" (is hunting and fishing not work?) that would not fly today...

So should I blame my wife for not having an "easy" life?

Case in point with the guy in the video...School was hard for him, so he quit, well, fine, but some people get through there studies easily, some people have ambition, etc.

If you were to ask them if it was a hard or easy life they might give you at most a raised eyebrow.

Try really living off the land for a week, hell a month, not taking any modern conveniences or very,vety minimum. Build your own shelter, etc.

The indian may like to idealize that lifestyle, but it is indeed hard.

Im sure the medicine man was free, given what "medical training" consisted of.

That kind of life takes more work than what people do today.


lol....

Do what you love, and you will never WORK a day in your life...


Hunting and fishing would have been work to someone who did not like that aspect of the lifestyle, and no work at all to someone who enjoyed it...:)

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01 Jul 2014 20:49 #151580 by
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Hunting and fishing would have been work to someone who did not like that aspect of the lifestyle, and no work at all to someone who enjoyed it...


Which is my point.

Now, hunting is for sport, or choice of lifestyle, in a sense one can enjoy it, because there is a choice available to not do it.

Doing it day in, and day out, sometimes with nothing to show for it, etc, makes it not a lifestyle choice, but a survival necessity.

Cleaning fish, skinning,gutting, and cutting up an animal, then making strips to dry, or depending on the climate and geography, smoke,(no modern convenience in the process, machines, etc) or in some other way preserve it(no refrigerator) makes for alot more effort, work, etc.

Ever have to take game back to camp?

That in itself can take alot of work and manpower, even by todays standards.

Just getting the hunting grounds, as you have no four wheelers, etc.

I dont think people appreciate how much easier things actually are.

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01 Jul 2014 20:51 #151581 by
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01 Jul 2014 20:54 #151582 by ren
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I wanted to put this in the IP:

https://www.youtube.com/v/V5QPL757PPU?start=50&end=807

Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies.

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09 Jun 2017 22:38 #287175 by
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Life is not easy, it's hard. As it should be, these difficulties create a resilience and wisdom that is needed. Sadly, some members of my generation (millennials). Do not understand that and are trying to form life in there little bubble. I hope that this can be beaten by the others.

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16 Jun 2017 01:54 #287760 by
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Life is easy if we let it be. Hard and easy are chosen perspectives. I have found that most people make their life "hard" or "challenging" because this is "cool". More people talk about how horrible our lives are than what is good about our lives. How many conversations to you have about good times and positive moment in your life verses how bad moments are?

There is pain, but pain does not have to be suffering.

Also, I feel that we are addicted to suffering and pain. we enjoy the intensity and drama. We are generally addicted to anger and all the responses we have to anger. So we make life "hard". Or you can "get over it". Take the challenge and talk about positive or affirmative things for as long as you can - like a day.

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