don't the let sith invade us

Myself, I believe that both light and dark (or Jedi and Sith, if you call it that) both have the capacity to teach and be kind. I don't think I'm really a 'lightsider' myself so to speak. The 'sith' mentioned in the poem in my sig is really a representation of the Dark Side, which is in all of us.

I might change the wording a little to not offend any Sith here Besides, what do real "sith" believe in?

Not killing people, I bet

They just have a different motivation for doing a lot of the same stuff jedi do. Instead of training to help others, they will train to help themselves succeed.

No kicking puppies or overthrowing governments involved as far as i have seen, and i have been around for years.

Andy Spalding wrote: They just have a different motivation for doing a lot of the same stuff jedi do. Instead of training to help others, they will train to help themselves succeed.

No kicking puppies or overthrowing governments involved as far as i have seen, and i have been around for years.

From this, I'd define Sithism as being more focused on your own life and what happens to you, as opposed to going out to deal with other people's problems? They'd probably give help if asked, though.

They probably would. They are just people with families and lives just like everyone else.

a jedi training is to know the force and the it is him self first you got evalute your own capacity to help an other and to every rules in the and my book i write myself and live for my self and what i live for plus i am the earth to and helping an other being is to take care of the earth nobody is alone in the universe we are all part of each other like the jedi and the teaches them with other so in a way they help each other because it is part of you to.You see you breed you feel but the differences is the Jedi defend the earth and rejuvenate and kept the clean.

And the sith everybody knows there destructer. And no offence

to the light side of the force

CrossingStar wrote: Myself, I believe that both light and dark (or Jedi and Sith, if you call it that) both have the capacity to teach and be kind. I don't think I'm really a 'lightsider' myself so to speak. The 'sith' mentioned in the poem in my sig is really a representation of the Dark Side, which is in all of us.

I might change the wording a little to not offend any Sith here Besides, what do real "sith" believe in?

Not killing people, I bet

Only people who annoy me. For me it centres around the source of my motivation. Passion is a hell of a motivator if you know how to tap it correctly.

The Sith introduction studies revolved around defining darkness, interpreting the code and definition of the self.

I'm a fiance and father and would be fairly useless to my family if I was unable to provide for them. By tapping into the drive to succeed, the rush of surpassing others and my need to do what I must, I can gain abilities and strength to better provide for my family and myself.

I've done what I can in life to be there for friends and family. Loyalty is one of my stronger traits. My master would probably have something to day about this, but meh. Part of the Sith lessons required me to define the Sith code, and how you define the code will show a part of who you are.

Evil is a lot more than a red lightsaber, but if someone chooses to believe the contrary, then go ahead. It puts them at a disadvantage when dealing with us at any time. Presume less, understand more. That is the Way of knowing.

The aggressions in a Jedi creates a an aggression of the sith and further more there one or the other and further more there also the way capacity of observing the phenomena and further more there this and that for sure there this and that for it's the opposite side.For paragraph it for nothing when you have nothing to count on not event your master and don't like the stiism it creche my teeth like Urbain horizon through the years a observe whit a master Jedi and many more because the force is grand like the grand master,As is for the investigation of the sithiism studying it 'she fought for i don't know what to tell you but get out of me a real master Jedi for ancient time point of you .And furthermore i can go on and on for mount like a am not like a killer by instinct that is in the sithiisnm code isn't it .The capacity is gran-er then a sith a you perfeclly know it not whit your hunting technique your going to get to me with tyou little clone carater .So on and so forth.And by the i train whit master Jedi in space and i don't need you bother me for ins-tin Yoda says get out of me and your diciple you ars that you peace of srap o world like you said to mee with fabrizio when a sitjh sreem out loud a ear but i don't live with fright And further fu you selk you peace pf scrape you wont destroy one more time the jedi order you-peace of nothing fudge you to and by the ill know with who a am dealing with to all the jedi in the if you ear that message fight back with world of honnor and honnesty for crying out loud respect your self not to be polite in life with the and by the jestor i am not sorry by guiding you me Yoda smith and all of you in the pass i created the temple one more time a install temple for those who brlive in like patrickb believe if this men bieng throne out of this system then i am out helping you jestor and i know you ear and patrick to but don't deceive your self, and furthermore Br.john did you desapire on Patrick you rise him with me the immortal.I Know you see me I'm not transparent.I love you all me Yoda smith.

I think we need a Sith invasion at this point. It'd strengthen our resolve and character.

PatrickB wrote: And furthermore i can go on and on for mount like a am not like a killer by instinct that is in the sithiisnm code isn't it .The capacity is gran-er then a sith a you perfeclly know it not whit your hunting technique your going to get to me with tyou little clone carater .So on and so forth.And by the i train whit master Jedi in space and i don't need you bother me for ins-tin Yoda says get out of me and your diciple you ars that you peace of srap o world like you said to mee with fabrizio when a sitjh sreem out loud a ear but i don't live with fright And further fu you selk you peace pf scrape you wont destroy one more time the jedi order you-peace of nothing fudge you to and by the ill know with who a am dealing with to all the jedi in the if you ear that message fight back with world of honnor and honnesty for crying out loud respect your self not to be polite in life with the

It feels as though you are concentrating a little too much on the Sith of the movies. As far as I'm aware the real-world Sith do not have a code that says that they are killers by instinct, and as they aren't killers they don't have a hunting technique. I also get the impression that destroying the Jedi Order is not very high up on the Sith priority list.

What others have been trying to tell you is that Sith are just 'normal' people, like Jedi, but they just try to achieve their goals through different means, or have a slightly different idea of what sorts of goals we should have in life. For example (although there is much, much, more to Sithism than this) Jedi try to help others, Sith are generally more concerned with achieving personal goals and desires.

Sith are not evil. They are not trying to 'invade'. They are not a threat, and there is no reason to fear them, or harbour dislike or disdain towards them.

A category, grouping or label (i.e. 'Sith') cannot be intrinsically evil. Only an individual entity can be evil (and even then, I struggle to think that there can be many truly 100% evil people in the world). If we don't let people who call themselves 'Sith' into the Temple, then we are unfairly discriminating on the grounds of belief/creed/lifestyle/personal philosophy/etc, and that is unacceptable and against what the Temple stands for. If an individual displays unacceptable behaviour, they can be warned and banned - and although this could happen to a Sith, it is equally possible that someone calling themselves a 'Jedi' could act in a way that is damaging or disruptive.

I judge a person on their actions and interactions, not on what they choose to call themselves.

I think i was like a shaman yesterday I apologize

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

That is our code. Any student is asked to define it at the beginning of their studies and at the end of the first section of assignments. Each Sith I've met has defined it differently. I choose a simpler interpretation as I do not hold to lofty ideas of the Force. I answer to my own ethics and my honour.

When asked to define the Force I said that I am the Force. We are the Force. It's my passion, my strength, my power, my victory. I break my chains. Does that seem self-centred? Maybe. But I know how to be what I am, and embracing the truth will change your fate.

:whistle:

In the years I have past i been fighting again guys like you on the street of life and I know you don't learn from the jedi knight you are just studying there as you there Passions there mentalities and behavior and symptom and character and there compassion sense in the sitiism there no reel compassion well ti is the same to you over and over

You most know the jedi knight ears well and there are not def or sourd it in french sense it not important to you the second language speaking in the world to bad for you as they say in francais a la prochaine.

Where there pleasure there no shyness.

Where there is shyness there is no pleasure

where there sources there is information

where there is amnesty there is sensibility.

where there is pleasure there no shyness.

and whit pleasure there is peace

where there is sensei's

there is smartness

where there is stupidity

there is sitiism

if somebody who train as a jedi for answer to patrickB

(and PS no sith allowed)

I'm both Jedi and Sith, go figure :blink:

PatrickB wrote: :whistle:

In the years I have past i been fighting again guys like you on the street of life and I know you don't learn from the jedi knight you are just studying there as you there Passions there mentalities and behavior and symptom and character and there compassion sense in the sitiism there no reel compassion well ti is the same to you over and over

You most know the jedi knight ears well and there are not def or sourd it in french sense it not important to you the second language speaking in the world to bad for you as they say in francais a la prochaine.

Where there pleasure there no shyness.

Where there is shyness there is no pleasure

where there sources there is information

where there is amnesty there is sensibility.

where there is pleasure there no shyness.

and whit pleasure there is peace

where there is sensei's

there is smartness

where there is stupidity

there is sitiism

if somebody who train as a jedi for answer to patrickB

(and PS no sith allowed)

I'm not meaning to be mean or anything, but I don't think your code there translated very well directly to English. Maybe you could post the original language and I can try and work it through some translating programs and see if it makes more sense to me.

Thank you for asking .I going to explain the phrases that i wrote .But i created the phrase in English .So if you want to translate them that's alright with me and send me the text or create other phrase or event play with the words.that how it goes.Csmith

Where there's pleasure there's no shyness
Where there's shyness there's no pleasure
( i meant by that ,it is to put emphasis on feeling pleasurable factor to stay alert on believing the pleasure it is good to feel. Shyness because to be shy is a deception the way the body unexpressed him self and contract your muscle in put you to rest of moving you speaking ability.)

Where there's sources there 's information
Where there's amnesty there is sensibility
(In fact is to be honest with people and if you know something useful for you to progress.)

Where there's pleasure there no shyness
and with pleasure there is peace
(with the pleasure create just by saying peace it creates beautiful felling.)

Where there's sensei's
there's smartness.
(It means when you practice long an off something in life you become a master.)

Where there'stupidity
there's sithiism
(It means criminal is no good and no values to know them only they bring you dow with them.)

I hope it is clear if you have any question please write to me
A plus

PatrickB wrote: Where there'stupidity
there's sithiism
(It means criminal is no good and no values to know them only they bring you dow with them.)

Calling all Sith bad, stupid, criminal, evil etc. sort of goes against one of the struggles Jediism (and perhaps Jedi Realists) are trying to make - the distinction between the fiction to real world application.

Quite simply the very notion that there is any place in society for fostering 'orders of evil domination' is just delusional fantasy, biding time until the proponents wake up to reality (if ever) or they progress enough to be dealt with by authorities as criminals. Therefore why bother using the term Sith in that way? The Sith in the movies were not acting Sith, they were acting evil. If someone is acting evil then call them evil.

I guess my point is perhaps consider that some people see the potential in Jedi and Sith as effective paradigms for modern philosophical, cultural and religious application. Not to mention the entire notion of criminality is subject to jurisdiction and content of laws to begin with I would have imagined, so one persons criminal could be another's saviour. Sorry if it reads critical but I've yet to see you say anything Sith about being Sith.

I just mean that there a site of Internet that is call sithiism and it's the link a saw of Jon front page and if you see it's not fiction any more and it's real people who identifies them self from the character in the movie that is considered criminal there no misunderstanding for me adder.You see jedi knight identifies them self as protector of the peace.And the sith to killer of the war they are warrior do you see that distinction adder

One does not have to be "evil" or bad or a criminal to be sith...sith have an inward focus....they look to themselves first and most help others after themslves....jedi have an outward focus choosing to help others before helpng themselves....both methods work...and they compliment each other perfectly....once you learn to balance the two you become complete...I've been done both roads and know the benefits and drawbacks of both...the only evil is in the heart of the individual

It depend to who you identify your self.To center on your self is to believe in that good if you don't help no one how are going to find work and contribute to society.And furthermore if you have been in both road are you still in both direction or are you washes from the who are not frequent able or is that why you quit because there wore up to no good in the neighbourhood

I am simply jedi...though it would be more acurate to call me a grey jedi or a rogue jedi....I see merit in both paths but I choose my own path...I do what is needed even if it isn't always nice...or as qui gon jinn would say " I will do what I must"....the world needs both light and dark....with no night the crops would dry out and burn with no day they would freeze and die