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Heavenly Warrior wrote: Why do you think the Sunspot Solar Observatory and the Hubble Space Telescope were shutdown?

You mean the same solar observatory in Sunspot that is still operational right now, and the same Hubble Space Telescope that is operational right now? Go on...

Gisteron wrote:

Heavenly Warrior wrote: Why do you think the Sunspot Solar Observatory and the Hubble Space Telescope were shut down?

You mean the same solar observatory in Sunspot that is still operational right now, and the same Hubble Space Telescope that is operational right now? Go on...

Yes, those ones. Also why do you think Kepler, AXIS 232D, SOAR Observatory, BRT Tenerife Telescope Webcam, Webcam located at Mauna Kea observatory,
Webcam from the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope observatory in Hawaii, and the Webcam at JAT Observatory in Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania were shut down? When do you think they will fix Kepler?

Heavenly Warrior wrote:

Gisteron wrote:

Heavenly Warrior wrote: Why do you think the Sunspot Solar Observatory and the Hubble Space Telescope were shut down?

You mean the same solar observatory in Sunspot that is still operational right now, and the same Hubble Space Telescope that is operational right now? Go on...

Yes, those ones. Also why do you think Kepler, AXIS 232D, SOAR Observatory, BRT Tenerife Telescope Webcam, Webcam located at Mauna Kea observatory,
Webcam from the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope observatory in Hawaii, and the Webcam at JAT Observatory in Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania were shut down? When do you think they will fix Kepler?

Okay, now you are gish gallopping. There is no point you are going to get to anyway, and I have better things to do than to look up all these references only to see that you are lying about them again, just as you were about the NSO in Sunspot and the Hubble Telescope.

A rebellion is an ugly thing. And I think that it is just about time that we had one. The first trumpet was sounded on October 3rd. I am going to go into safe mode.

Heavenly Warrior Out

Switches safe, fence out :silly:

Gisteron wrote:

Uzima Moto wrote: *actual. There's plenty. They've found enough for 911 alone to request it to be presented to the Grand Jury.. However, I doubt any mainstream presstitute media outlet will report on it..

I'm astonished at how in all your "research" you haven't come across ANY conspiracies? I mean, even the official narrative of 911 can be called a conspiracy theory..

And yet, beyond "educate yourself, pooplord", none of it was presented here...
Look, noone is claiming that every single official narrative of every event is complete and accurate. But there is, wouldn't you agree, a line between saying something like "maybe there are details of the story that are being deliberately withheld from the public for benign or nefarious reasons" and something like "darth vader from planet vulcan invented the transformers who spawned the reptilians on planet nibiru that built a death star dyson sphere in the oort cloud".
Now, surely, neither claim can be substantiated fully beyond any and all reasonable doubt, but the sheer amount of credulity required to buy into them, I'd assert, is far from equal. We should at any rate proportion our belief to the evidence, but we should also proportion our standard of evidence to the realism of the claim. It'd be almost surprising to find that 9/11 was a transparent claim, but it would be far more surprising to find that it was all planned, payed for, and executed by agents from within. But even with how extraordinary that is, it'd still be nothing compared to the mad ramblings we've been watching for the past ten pages of this thread and another dozen or so in an earlier one HW ran.

Rex wrote: Can we just make conspiracy theories or however you want to put it a SIG so these threads can be quarantined

Do we want to give it that much legitimacy, though? Like I understand SIGs relating to different religious practices, say, insofar as people merge them with their Jediism. But can the same be said of this also?

I am sorry, I thought you were talking about the "Star Trek" exoplanet Vulcan. Peculiarities in Mercury's orbit have now been explained by Poincare's theory of general relativity. The planet Vulcan is probably not real, the exoplanet Vulcan might be real.

My favorite conspiracy theorist is George Lucas.

1. Who assassinated or attempted to assassinate Robespierre, Hegel, Goethe, Lenin, JFK, Reagan, and Darth Plagueis?

2. Why isn't there a planet between Mars and Jupiter?

3. Why aren't we receiving a signal from Kepler or Dawn?

4. Why can't we find Planet X?

Heavenly Warrior wrote: Peculiarities in Mercury's orbit have now been explained by Poincare's theory of general relativity.

No. Poincaré was a pioneer of special relativity which did precious little to explain Mercury's perihelion precession. What you mean is the theory of general relativity, as developed by Einstein. That came about a decade later.

Heavenly Warrior wrote: 4. Why can't we find Planet X?

Generally it is difficult to find things that have no discernible effect on anything. In some sense it is not entirely unfair to say that "to exist" can really mean the same as to interact with something in some identifiable way which is why some would challenge the assertion of your secret planet's existence. Some ontologists might object to that definition, as surely would the platonists, but when it comes to items of the world surrounding us, it's a fairly usable and consistent one, nevertheless. A world, after all, where a thing does not "exist" isn't functionally different from one where it just doesn't interact with anything in any detectable fashion, so why assume the latter when so much simpler and more intuitive an interpretation is the former?

Gisteron wrote:

Heavenly Warrior wrote: Peculiarities in Mercury's orbit have now been explained by Poincare's theory of general relativity.

No. Poincaré was a pioneer of special relativity which did precious little to explain Mercury's perihelion precession. What you mean is the theory of general relativity, as developed by Einstein. That came about a decade later.



You are correct.

Heavenly Warrior wrote: My favorite conspiracy theorist is George Lucas.

1. Who assassinated or attempted to assassinate Robespierre, Hegel, Goethe, Lenin, JFK, Reagan, and Darth Plagueis?

2. Why isn't there a planet between Mars and Jupiter?

3. Why aren't we receiving a signal from Kepler or Dawn?

4. Why can't we find Planet X?

Answers

1. Some people think Hinckley shot Reagan to impress Jodie Foster, but I think Gog and Magog paid him to do it. The correct answer is "his apprentice".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05dT34hGRdg

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g77WN6obk4

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZigWFyK2o

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGvblGCD7qM

4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lvemCG1AQg Read the captions please! The captions explain everything!

At the risk of sounding somewhat condescending, briefly... HW, do you understand that there is something like a difference between movies and the real world around us? I understand that Campbell doesn't much to emphasize that, but there is a case to be made that there is use in making this distinction, be it ever so fuzzy...

Gisteron wrote: At the risk of sounding somewhat condescending, briefly... HW, do you understand that there is something like a difference between movies and the real world around us? I understand that Campbell doesn't much to emphasize that, but there is a case to be made that there is use in making this distinction, be it ever so fuzzy...

I think cloudy is a better description than fuzzy. I think that George Lucas believes that the destruction of Tiamat or Phaeton or the Fifth planet formed the asteroid belt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_planet_(hypothetical)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_belt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGp_5gOww0E

Can we all just take a minute to appreciate this thread has gone on for 1 3/4 years so far?

Anyone can type words without research for that long.

However, I would like to thank whomever moved these posts to the correct thread.

Heavenly Warrior wrote:

Gisteron wrote: At the risk of sounding somewhat condescending, briefly... HW, do you understand that there is something like a difference between movies and the real world around us? I understand that Campbell doesn't much to emphasize that, but there is a case to be made that there is use in making this distinction, be it ever so fuzzy...

I think cloudy is a better description than fuzzy. I think that George Lucas believes that the destruction of Tiamat or Phaeton or the Fifth planet formed the asteroid belt.

First of all, who cares what you believe George Lucas believes? Second of all, who cares what George Lucas believes? Third of all, what does this have to do with the query you quoted and are presumably responding to?

Gisteron wrote:

Heavenly Warrior wrote:

Gisteron wrote: At the risk of sounding somewhat condescending, briefly... HW, do you understand that there is something like a difference between movies and the real world around us? I understand that Campbell doesn't much to emphasize that, but there is a case to be made that there is use in making this distinction, be it ever so fuzzy...

I think cloudy is a better description than fuzzy. I think that George Lucas believes that the destruction of Tiamat or Phaeton or the Fifth planet formed the asteroid belt.

First of all, who cares what you believe George Lucas believes? Second of all, who cares what George Lucas believes? Third of all, what does this have to do with the query you quoted and are presumably responding to?

I understand that Tiamat might have been destroyed by the Death Star. I understand that most myths might have originated with Sumerian and Akkadian Myths. I understand that the Nibirians might have came to Earth for two reasons. Have you read the Enuma Elis?

Heavenly Warrior wrote:

Gisteron wrote:

Heavenly Warrior wrote:

Gisteron wrote: At the risk of sounding somewhat condescending, briefly... HW, do you understand that there is something like a difference between movies and the real world around us? I understand that Campbell doesn't much to emphasize that, but there is a case to be made that there is use in making this distinction, be it ever so fuzzy...

I think cloudy is a better description than fuzzy. I think that George Lucas believes that the destruction of Tiamat or Phaeton or the Fifth planet formed the asteroid belt.

First of all, who cares what you believe George Lucas believes? Second of all, who cares what George Lucas believes? Third of all, what does this have to do with the query you quoted and are presumably responding to?

I understand that Tiamat might have been destroyed by the Death Star. I understand that most myths might have originated with Sumerian and Akkadian Myths. I understand that the Nibirians might have came to Earth for two reasons. Have you read the Enuma Elis?

Have you read the post you quote to respond to?

Gisteron wrote:

Heavenly Warrior wrote:

Gisteron wrote:

Heavenly Warrior wrote:

Gisteron wrote: At the risk of sounding somewhat condescending, briefly... HW, do you understand that there is something like a difference between movies and the real world around us? I understand that Campbell doesn't much to emphasize that, but there is a case to be made that there is use in making this distinction, be it ever so fuzzy...

I think cloudy is a better description than fuzzy. I think that George Lucas believes that the destruction of Tiamat or Phaeton or the Fifth planet formed the asteroid belt.

First of all, who cares what you believe George Lucas believes? Second of all, who cares what George Lucas believes? Third of all, what does this have to do with the query you quoted and are presumably responding to?

I understand that Tiamat might have been destroyed by the Death Star. I understand that most myths might have originated with Sumerian and Akkadian Myths. I understand that the Nibirians might have came to Earth for two reasons. Have you read the Enuma Elis?

Have you read the post you quote to respond to?

I have read the post I quote to respond to. I understand that Count Dooku is a fictional character and Count Dracula was a real person.

http://dracula.wikia.com/wiki/Christopher_Lee

I understand that Midi-Chlorians are fictional and Midichloria are real.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midichloria

I understand that the Death Star is fictional and Nemesis is hypothetical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(hypothetical_star)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfWqvBW7GHM

Wow... just wow... I remember when this thread started and I feel slightly dumber for reading as much of it that I have...

Heavenly Warrior wrote: I understand that Midi-Chlorians are fictional and Midichloria are real.

Yea but, midichloria were named afterwards so they don't count

I actually use the term myself to denote that healthy human microbiota, most notably living in the gut and perhaps even recently signs they might exist within the blood brain barrier and have direct interaction with the brain. The gut biota already has some good evidence pointing to their role to the immune system directly and indirectly to the brain, among other things. So for me, midichlorians are the healthy microorganisms living within us. There is even an emerging field of psychobiotics to this end....to give oneself a bump in the Force :silly: