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maynoth wrote: No it's no cop out Rick


I have good evidence for what I am talking about, if you'd like to examine it you are free to PM me Rickie.


I knew you'd say that.

Rickie The Grey wrote:
I knew you'd say that.

Is having a private discussion about this topic, really that difficult?

Most of the time when done in private it remains a lot more civil than if 10,000 trolls join in and it turns into a food fight. People individually are usually pretty nice, as a community though the dynamics of the discussion change dramatically, mob mentalities and lynchings are common.

maynoth wrote: . People individually are usually pretty nice, as a community though the dynamics of the discussion change dramatically, mob mentalities and lynchings are common.

I actually have a couple apprenticeship lessons on that...

RyuJin wrote:

maynoth wrote: . People individually are usually pretty nice, as a community though the dynamics of the discussion change dramatically, mob mentalities and lynchings are common.

I actually have a couple apprenticeship lessons on that...

I'd like to say I speak from experience.

Presented on a case by case basis, usually it is civil, and short. You either accept the evidence as evidence, or you don't.

In a public forum a sort of snow ball lynch mob mentality begins to manifest, and I don't back down even against a community of 500+.

I dedicated 3 months of my life to a series of debates on reddit, after /r/skeptic picked up on a post in /r/martial arts that I made and invaded.

In a community like this such wouldn't be tolerated, and I wouldn't expect it to be.

Speaking with people one on one is usually straight forward and low drama, engaging a community is not.

I just haven't seen much like this. I think things are pretty well moderated. I haven't seen you abused. I have seen you assert you views though. Perhaps that rubs some people the wrong way? Have you thought about how you presnt yourself and how it may be received by others. You do come across assertivly with you opinions and not so accepting of others. Then you go say talk to me in PMs because I can't talk about thisin public.

Just something to think about.

Rickie The Grey wrote: I just haven't seen much like this. I think things are pretty well moderated. I haven't seen you abused. I have seen you assert you views though. Perhaps that rubs some people the wrong way? Have you thought about how you presnt yourself and how it may be received by others. You do come across assertivly with you opinions and not so accepting of others. Then you go say talk to me in PMs because I can't talk about thisin public.

Just something to think about.

I've got a very thick skin, I can take it. Others however, not so much.



I am assertive, but I would imagine that if anyone else had actually seen and experienced what I have they themselves would be just as resolved to try and tell others about it.



I come from an Atheist/Skeptic background, and I had my paradigms crushed into a million tiny pieces.

I always told others if I was given proof, I'd change my beliefs accordingly.

It's one thing to say that, it's another to get your mouth stuffed full of crow.

So at my heart I still see myself in this sort of rational skeptic mindset, I only accept that for which I've seen good evidence for, in my case evidence I've experienced directly.

The skeptics see me as a newage whackjob, and the newage guys are as annoyed if not more so with me than a hardcore skeptic.

I am in the unique position to upset everyone lol.

maynoth wrote:

Oh maynoth...

You kill me!

Jestor wrote:

maynoth wrote:

Oh maynoth...

You kill me!

lol I found it funny too