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Its not stress that kill people, it's stressing out about how stressed they are that kills them lol
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one of my psych professors suggested it to me the other day and when i watched the ted talk, i felt that the message is important - really important - as it basically can make the difference between being overwhelmed and beaten down by stress, and the medical problems which come along with that, or actually growing and becoming a stronger and healthier person by handling stress in an effective way
ive got an article here:
"Embracing stress is more important than reducing stress, Stanford psychologist says
Stanford psychologist Kelly McGonigal talks about new research indicating that stress can make us stronger, smarter and happier – if we learn how to open our minds to it."
If people actually embrace the concept of stress, it can make them stronger, smarter and happier, a Stanford expert says.
"Stress isn't always harmful," said Kelly McGonigal, a business school lecturer at Stanford and program developer for the Stanford Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and Education. "Once you appreciate that going through stress makes you better at it, it can be easier to face each new challenge."
he Stanford News Service interviewed McGonigal, who recently published a new book, The Upside of Stress, on the subject.
How can one cultivate a mindset to embrace stress?
The initial research on stress mindsets, which was conducted by Stanford psychology Assistant Professor Alia Crum, showed that viewing stress as a helpful part of life, rather than as harmful, is associated with better health, emotional well-being and productivity at work – even during periods of high stress.
One reason that how you think about stress matters is because it changes how you respond to stress. Viewing stress as harmful leads people to cope in ways that are less helpful, whether it's getting drunk to "release" stress, procrastinating to avoid stress, or imagining worst-case scenarios. One study found that simply having the goal to avoid stress increased the long-term risk of outcomes like depression, divorce and getting fired, by increasing people's reliance on harmful coping strategies.
In contrast, viewing stress more positively seems to encourage people to cope in ways that help them thrive, whether it's tackling the source of stress, seeking social support or finding meaning in it.
So should we just tell ourselves that stress is good for us?
In the course of researching the book and leading my own stress mindset interventions, I've discovered that the most helpful mindset toward stress goes beyond a generally positive attitude toward stress. The three most protective beliefs about stress are: 1) to view your body's stress response as helpful, not debilitating – for example, to view stress as energy you can use; 2) to view yourself as able to handle, and even learn and grow from, the stress in your life; and 3) to view stress as something that everyone deals with, and not something that proves how uniquely screwed up you or your life is.
The emerging science on stress mindsets shows that it is possible to change all of these attitudes, even if we are used to thinking of stress as harmful. For example, when you feel your heart pounding from anxiety, you think about how your body is trying to give you the energy you need to rise to the challenge. More importantly, changing any one of these attitudes can help you thrive in the face of ordinary stress as well as chronic or even traumatic stress.
When is stress bad?
There is a reason stress has a bad reputation, and part of it is the evidence that chronic and traumatic stress can increase the risk of illness, depression and early mortality, among other things.
Choosing to see the upside of stress isn't about denying the fact that stress can be harmful. It's about trying to balance your mindset so that you feel less overwhelmed and hopeless about the fact that your life is stressful. We rarely get to choose the stress in our lives, and it isn't realistic to think we can avoid stress. Given that life is going to be stressful, what do you gain by focusing on the fear that the reality of your life is killing you?
Psychologists have found that the ability to embrace stress requires a high tolerance for ambiguity and uncertainty. You have to be able to understand that two seemingly opposite things can be true at the same time. It can be true that going through something stressful can make you sick or depressed, and it can also be true that the same stressful experience can ultimately make you stronger, more compassionate and more resilient over time.
When facing a difficult or stressful situation, what should people do?
Stress is most likely to be harmful when the following conditions are present: it feels against your will, out of your control and utterly devoid of meaning. If you can change any of these conditions – by finding some meaning in it – you can reduce the harmful effects of stress.
The relationship between stress and meaning can be very helpful to understand. A 2013 study asked a broad national sample of adults in the U.S to rate how much they agreed with the statement, Taking all things together, I feel my life is meaningful. The researchers then looked at what distinguished people who strongly agreed with the statement from those who did not. Surprisingly, every measure of stress that the researchers asked about predicted a greater sense of meaning in life. People who had experienced the highest number of stressful life events in the past were most likely to consider their lives meaningful. People who said they were under a lot of stress right now also rated their lives as more meaningful. Even time spent worrying about the future was associated with meaning.
One of the researchers' main conclusions from this study is, "People with very meaningful lives worry more and have more stress than people with less meaningful lives."
Rather than being a sign that something is wrong with your life, feeling stressed can be a barometer for how engaged you are in activities and relationships that are personally meaningful.
Any other tips for dealing with stress?
One simple mindset reset that can help us face and find the good in the stress in our lives is to view it as an opportunity to learn and grow. The ability to learn from stress is built into the basic biology of the stress response. For several hours after you have a strong stress response, the brain is rewiring itself to remember and learn from the experience. Stress leaves an imprint
on your brain that prepares you to handle similar stress the next time you encounter it. Psychologists call the process of learning and growing from a difficult experience stress inoculation. Going through the experience gives your brain and body a stress vaccine.
This is why putting people through practice stress is a key training technique for NASA astronauts, emergency responders, elite athletes and others who have to thrive under high levels of stress.
and/or if you prefer, here is a youtube of her TEDtalk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcGyVTAoXEU
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While I think that we can cope and happily deal with some stress, there is a limit to what an individual can take.
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I think about it like my martial arts training. My ultimate goal is to avoid a physical confrontation (the stress in this analogy) but I have spent a lot of time with it (during the course of training) to deal with it better when it does happen. I view any physical confrontation during training as a good thing because it's preparing me better for one out in the world. However, I do everything I can to avoid the physical confrontation outside of class.
It's not a perfect analogy but it's what I came up with on the spot. If I come up with a better one I'll let post it.
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Edan wrote: For me there is a boundary where stress stops being helpful and becomes harmful, and instead of 'embracing' this stress.. which I've found does not work.. I must reduce it. Reducing the stress from the work I did here and from my degree has made me happier, not more depressed.
While I think that we can cope and happily deal with some stress, there is a limit to what an individual can take.
yeah thats a good point
i guess this would be more of a coping tool to potentially expand the limit of the stress we can handle by some amount, and i suppose that the exact amount would still be pretty different from individual to individual, and for each individual, also different from situation to situation
the idea of re-framing our perception of the body's reaction to stress really hit me - to see it as "my body is preparing to respond to anything" instead of "omg im so sweaty and nervous" lol
that was really what made me want to share, but i think definitely you hit on something important too, that we all have a limit somewhere to the amount of stress we can handle and even if we expand that limit it doesnt mean that we shouldnt do what we can to keep stress to a minimum
Goken wrote: As with everything it's about balance. I do agree that changing our mindset towards stress is good and helpful. We can't avoid stress all together and trying to would be more harmful than helpful. Like trying to avoid danger by never leaving your house. But, as Edan said, actively trying to reduce your stress isn't a bad thing either.
I think about it like my martial arts training. My ultimate goal is to avoid a physical confrontation (the stress in this analogy) but I have spent a lot of time with it (during the course of training) to deal with it better when it does happen. I view any physical confrontation during training as a good thing because it's preparing me better for one out in the world. However, I do everything I can to avoid the physical confrontation outside of class.
It's not a perfect analogy but it's what I came up with on the spot. If I come up with a better one I'll let post it.
im gonna give my "why martial arts are awesome" speech
and i dont blame you if you dont read it, because i know i talk a lot, and im pretty sure that you already know why MA's are awesome lol
from a STRICTLY self defense POV, FOR THE MOST PART, what i would call "awareness and personality training" is way more important than the physical violence aspect.
so in the event that i find myself talking about the benefits of MA's to people who dont train, i really dont even touch that much on the S.D. side of it unless someone specifically wants to know what they should be looking for in an MA if they want to be able to fight - and not everyone really does
personally, i like especially to promote MA's to parents, for the simple fact that i think MA training is good for everyone and especially it gives kids something positive and healthy so they can learn to build those types of habits while theyre young, even if theyre not really learning to be good fighters PER SE, theyre learning HOPEFULLY to be healthy people in general
ive found that there are a lot of parents who really dont want their kids to be "good fighters"
lol that really frightens some parents actually
so what i like to say instead of "training makes you a good fighter" (because hey lets be honest, it doesnt necessarily. many people have been training for a long time and theyre not really any better of a fighter than your average a gym rat, with a bad attitude. less of one, sometimes) so instead i like to tell people that "training puts you in situations where you have to deal with stress"
to handle several different kinds of stress in effective ways
a competent instructor will see where your limits are, and of course will respect that, but will push you to reach them and over
and in time this will help you to exceed them, by a great deal
and THATS why martial arts training helps people to be good at life
because it helps us get good at handling stress and fear
what is exercise? its putting your body through stress in a deliberate and controlled way
but MA's go further than just the stress of physical exertion
whether its being punched in the face or slammed on the mat OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN lol or being caught in an arm-bar or a choke hold, youre put into situations where youre adrenaline is up, you really feel like youre in a risky situation, and its hard to keep going, physically and mentally
but you have to keep your head together and go on and do what you have to do
so i said all that in response to your last line, because i think your analogy is pretty good - i even use it myself lol
that we learn to handle this kind of stress in a controlled environment, with the idea that this will better prepare us to face stress when we encounter it out in the broader world
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